FreedomCardBoard.com Forums http://www.freedomcardboard.com/forum/ This is a discussion forum about sports cards powered by pure awesome. en Wed, 22 May 2013 20:25:07 GMT vBulletin 60 http://www.freedomcardboard.com/forum/images/misc/rss.png FreedomCardBoard.com Forums http://www.freedomcardboard.com/forum/ LYNN OR TROUT? http://www.freedomcardboard.com/forum/baseball/123292-lynn-trout.html Wed, 22 May 2013 19:34:35 GMT Who would you vote for based on the following batting #'s from Fred Lynn in 1975 and Mike Trout in 2012?

Lynn's defense may have surpassed Trouts also, or at least could be seen as equal to it. But since most of us didn't see Lynn play in 1975, let's just make a vote based on the batting stats.



Fred Lynn's 1975 #'s:

YEAR▲TEAMLGLEVEL G AB R H TB 2B 3B HR RBI BB IBB SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS

1975 BOS AL MLB 145 528 103 175 299 47 7 21 105 62 10 90 10 5 .331 .401 .566 .967

Mike Trout's 2012 #'s:

2012 LAA AL MLB 139 559 129 182 315 27 8 30 83 67 4 139 49 5 .326 .399 .564 .963 ]]> Baseball bmp1971 http://www.freedomcardboard.com/forum/baseball/123292-lynn-trout.html Top 10 Baseball Players NOT in the HOF http://www.freedomcardboard.com/forum/baseball/123291-top-10-baseball-players-not-hof.html Wed, 22 May 2013 18:53:20 GMT The thread about Vladimir Guerrero and whether he should or shouldn't be in the HOF got me thinking.... who are the top (10) players NOT in the HOF? Clearly there is someone I personally think should be in the HOF ;) but thought I'd see what articles I could find which might have their own lists. I'm also just showing Top 10 and not going deeper for articles which show Top 50 or even Top 100.

I'm basically showing a list I found from Jan. 2013, 2012 and 2011 for comparison purposes and to give an idea of how they lists have changed with people being elligible, etc. Let me know what your thoughts are!

Here is what I found:

Baseball Past and Present - Jan. 2013

1. Tim Raines
2. Craig Biggio
3. Jeff Bagwell
4. Shoeless Joe Jackson
5. Alan Trammell
6. Roger Clemens
7. Pete Rose
8. Barry Bonds
9. Edgar Martinez
10. Lou Whitaker

Bleacher Report - Jan. 2012

1. Shoeless Joe Jackson
2. Pete Rose
3. Tim Raines
4. Dick Allen
5. Alan Trammell
6. Tony Oliva
7. Jeff Bagwell
8. Maury Wills
9. Steve Garvey
10. Tommy John

Yahoo! - Jan. 2011

1. Pete Rose
2. Shoeless Joe Jackson
3. Ron Santo
4. Dale Murphy
5. Gale Hodges
6. Don Mattingly
7. Tommy John
8. Dick Allen
9. Fred McGriff
10. Jack Morris ]]> Baseball MansGame http://www.freedomcardboard.com/forum/baseball/123291-top-10-baseball-players-not-hof.html Another impressive, and rare, find in a wall (comic book) http://www.freedomcardboard.com/forum/baseball/123290-another-impressive-rare-find-wall-comic-book.html Wed, 22 May 2013 18:50:15 GMT Holy hammer! Man finds $100G comic book while remodeling Minnesota home | Fox News

Let the jokes begin. ]]> Baseball hive17 http://www.freedomcardboard.com/forum/baseball/123290-another-impressive-rare-find-wall-comic-book.html FS/FT Anyone need 2012 Fleer Retro Football Singles http://www.freedomcardboard.com/forum/football-transactions/123289-anyone-need-2012-fleer-retro-football-singles.html Wed, 22 May 2013 18:48:11 GMT Anyone need 2012 Fleer Retro Football Singles? I have the following for trade or sale


2012 Fleer Retro Ultra #2 Johnny Rodgers
2012 Fleer Retro Ultra #3 Charles White
2012 Fleer Retro Ultra #6 Rodney Peete
2012 Fleer Retro Ultra #11 Billy Cannon
2012 Fleer Retro Ultra #15 Joe Theismann
2012 Fleer Retro Ultra #19 Dan Marino
2012 Fleer Retro Ultra #2 1 Barry Sanders
2012 Fleer Retro Ultra #2 5 Bart Starr
2012 Fleer Retro Ultra #2 8 Garrison Hearst
2012 Fleer Retro Ultra #2 9 Vinny Testaverde
2012 Fleer Retro Ultra #3 3 Steve Young
2012 Fleer Retro Ultra #3 5 Johnny Lattner
2012 Fleer Retro Ultra #3 6 Roger Staubach
2012 Fleer Retro Ultra #3 7 Tony Dorsett
2012 Fleer Retro Ultra #3 9 Bo Jackson
2012 Fleer Retro Ultra #40 Tim Tebow
2012 Fleer Retro Ultra #43 Tommie Frazier
2012 Fleer Retro Ultra #50 Billy Sims


2012 Fleer Retro Metal #M1 Troy Aikman
2012 Fleer Retro Metal #M3 Jim Plunkett
2012 Fleer Retro Metal #M4 Roger Staubach (2)
2012 Fleer Retro Metal #M5 Johnny Rodgers
2012 Fleer Retro Metal #M8 Dan Marino
2012 Fleer Retro Metal #M9 Jim Kelly
2012 Fleer Retro Metal #M1 1 Billy Sims
2012 Fleer Retro Metal #M1 2 John Elway
2012 Fleer Retro Metal #M1 3 Jerry Rice
2012 Fleer Retro Metal #M1 7 Anthony Carter
2012 Fleer Retro Metal #M20 Drew Bledsoe
2012 Fleer Retro Metal #M21 George Rogers
2012 Fleer Retro Metal #M23 Garrison Hearst
2012 Fleer Retro Metal #M29 Bruce Smith (2)
2012 Fleer Retro Metal #M3 0 Archie Manning
2012 Fleer Retro Metal #M3 8 Doug Flutie
2012 Fleer Retro Metal #M4 0 Drew Brees (2)
2012 Fleer Retro Metal #M4 2 Trent Richardson
2012 Fleer Retro Metal #M4 6 Brandon Weeden
2012 Fleer Retro Metal #M4 7 Doug Martin
2012 Fleer Retro Metal #M4 8 A.J. Jenkins (2)
2012 Fleer Retro Metal #M4 9 Kendall Wright
2012 Fleer Retro Metal #M5 1 Nick Foles
2012 Fleer Retro Metal #M5 2 Brian Quick
2012 Fleer Retro Metal #M5 3 Case Keenum
2012 Fleer Retro Metal #M5 5 Coby Fleener
2012 Fleer Retro Metal #M5 6 Stephen Hill (2)
2012 Fleer Retro Metal #M5 7 Alshon Jeffery
2012 Fleer Retro Metal #M61 Rueben Randle
2012 Fleer Retro Metal #M62 DeVier Posey
2012 Fleer Retro Metal #M65 Bernard Pierce
2012 Fleer Retro Metal #M68 Jarius Wright
2012 Fleer Retro Metal #M69 Nick Toon
2012 Fleer Retro Metal #M78 Luke Kuechly (2)
2012 Fleer Retro Metal #M79 Stephon Gilmore
2012 Fleer Retro Metal #M8 4 David DeCastro
2012 Fleer Retro Metal #M8 5 Dont'a Hightower
2012 Fleer Retro Metal #M8 6 Whitney Mercilus (2)
2012 Fleer Retro Metal #M8 7 Andre Branch (2)
2012 Fleer Retro Metal #M8 9 Cordy Glenn
2012 Fleer Retro Metal #M9 0 Mychal Kendricks
2012 Fleer Retro Metal #M9 3 Lavonte David
2012 Fleer Retro Metal #M9 6 T.J. Graham


2012 Fleer Retro 1963 Fleer #6 3CG Cordy Glenn
2012 Fleer Retro 1963 Fleer #6 3JW Jarius Wright
2012 Fleer Retro 1962 Fleer #6 2CF Coby Fleener
2012 Fleer Retro 1962 Fleer #6 2RW Russell Wilson
2012 Fleer Retro 1961 Fleer #6 1BC Billy Cannon


2012 Fleer Retro Rookie Sensations #RS3 Justin Blackmon
2012 Fleer Retro Rookie Sensations #RS3 1 Melvin Ingram
2012 Fleer Retro Rookie Sensations #RS51 Bobby Wagner


PM me if needed and thanks for looking. ]]> Football - Transactions dksportz8 http://www.freedomcardboard.com/forum/football-transactions/123289-anyone-need-2012-fleer-retro-football-singles.html 2013 Topps Pro Debut Retail Version http://www.freedomcardboard.com/forum/baseball/123288-2013-topps-pro-debut-retail-version.html Wed, 22 May 2013 18:47:54 GMT Can anybody confirm that there will be a retail version of 2013 Topps Pro Debut and if you have sell sheet info can you please post it ? Can anybody confirm that there will be a retail version of 2013 Topps Pro Debut and if you have sell sheet info can you please post it ? ]]> Baseball 19braves77 http://www.freedomcardboard.com/forum/baseball/123288-2013-topps-pro-debut-retail-version.html a fair price for 3+ cases of chrome and base bp/vet/rc of 2013 Bowman? http://www.freedomcardboard.com/forum/baseball/123287-fair-price-3-cases-chrome-base-bp-vet-rc-2013-bowman.html Wed, 22 May 2013 18:16:20 GMT On a whim, I'm thinking to pick up a couple more jumbo cases of 2013 Bowman today, but don't need all the base chrome bcp and base paper vet/rc/bp cards and I wonder what a fair price would be on average per card on a huge lot (I'll actually have 30 jumbo boxes worth of cards to move if I get two more cases) like this? Anyone know?

Also, would it be best to sell all the chrome in a lot separately from the others, and then the paper bp/rc/vet separately as a lot?

I don't know if anyone is interested but I also wonder what a fair price would be on the lots of ice and internationals for 30 boxes worth of cards, nothing withheld.

I'd prob keep or sell off the autos and refs and #'d cards individually.

30 boxes of jumbos is 11,520 cards-- I'm guessing it would be around 11,000 in base chrome bcp and base bp/rc/vets. ]]> Baseball bmp1971 http://www.freedomcardboard.com/forum/baseball/123287-fair-price-3-cases-chrome-base-bp-vet-rc-2013-bowman.html <![CDATA["no auto for you!" New York vs. the card companies (from 1992)]]> http://www.freedomcardboard.com/forum/baseball/123286-no-auto-you-new-york-vs-card-companies-1992-a.html Wed, 22 May 2013 18:00:17 GMT Found this in a 1992 tuff stuff. Former ny consumer affairs commissioner Mark Green forced the card companies to either list the autograph odds on... Found this in a 1992 tuff stuff.

Former ny consumer affairs commissioner Mark Green forced the card companies to either list the autograph odds on the wrapper or they can't ship cases POSSIBLY containing autos to NY addresses (keep in mind this was 1992 when it was generally impossible to find one in a pack).

BUT it only applied to advertising directed towards children.

"5000 cards sounds like a large amount to kids, & these ads have the potential to mislead kids into spending their money in a futile search" for valuable cards, said green.

UD fought the hardest, even claiming that they were thinking about not seeding any possible autos in certain cases destined for NY.

UD said that by putting odds, it sends a message that these special cards should be considered "sweepstakes"

They were also afraid this would lead to a domino effect.

All the companies eventually bowed to the pressure & paid $1500 ea to cover costs of the investigation. ]]> Baseball BBCgalaxee http://www.freedomcardboard.com/forum/baseball/123286-no-auto-you-new-york-vs-card-companies-1992-a.html A really good Topps Redemption Replacement Mail Day http://www.freedomcardboard.com/forum/baseball/123285-really-good-topps-redemption-replacement-mail-day.html Wed, 22 May 2013 18:00:05 GMT Lars Anderson and Darin Mastroianni aren't going to sign apparently.


These are the replacements for a gold lars and a darin refractor
Attached Images
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12:10 pm
Twins at Braves
MIN: V Worley
(1-4, 6.20)
ATL: P Maholm
(5-4, 3.83)


1:10 pm
Dodgers at Brewers
LAD: H Ryu
(4-2, 3.42)
MIL: W Peralta
(3-4, 5.94)


1:10 pm
Reds at Mets
CIN: M Latos
(4-0, 2.91)
NYM: M Harvey
(5-0, 1.55)


2:05 pm
Athletics at Rangers
OAK: J Parker
(2-5, 6.04)
TEX: R Wolf
(0-0, -)

3:10 pm
Diamondbacks at Rockies
ARI: T Cahill
(3-4, 2.48)
COL: J De La Rosa
(5-3, 3.58)


3:45 pm
Nationals at Giants
WAS: G Gonzalez
(3-2, 4.01)
SF: M Bumgarner
(4-2, 3.09)


4:37 pm
Rays at Blue Jays
TB: J Hellickson
(2-2, 5.82)
TOR: M Buehrle
(1-3, 6.33)


7:05 pm
Yankees at Orioles
NYY: H Kuroda
(6-2, 1.99)
BAL: J Hammel
(5-2, 5.72)


7:05 pm
Mariners at Angels
SEA: B Maurer
(2-5, 5.75)
LAA: C Wilson
(3-3, 3.72)


7:05 pm
Tigers at Indians
DET: J Verlander
(4-4, 3.17)
CLE: U Jimenez
(3-2, 5.31)


7:05 pm
Cubs at Pirates
CHC: J Samardzija
(2-5, 3.49)
PIT: F Liriano
(2-0, 1.64)


7:10 pm
Phillies at Marlins
PHI: C Lee
(4-2, 2.83)
MIA: K Slowey
(1-4, 3.44)


8:10 pm
Red Sox at White Sox
BOS: C Buchholz
(6-0, 1.78)
CWS: H Santiago
(1-2, 2.78)


8:10 pm
Royals at Astros
KC: J Shields
(2-4, 2.45)
HOU: J Lyles
(1-1, 6.63)


10:10 pm
Cardinals at Padres
STL: T Lyons
(0-0, -) SD:
B Smith
(0-0, 15.63) ]]> Baseball MantMaris http://www.freedomcardboard.com/forum/baseball/123284-5-22-mlb-daily-thread.html Anyone here sell on Sportlots auctions? http://www.freedomcardboard.com/forum/baseball/123283-anyone-here-sell-sportlots-auctions.html Wed, 22 May 2013 17:09:28 GMT I know plenty of people here sell on Sportlots, but does anyone have experience selling via their auction section? It looks like it might be a good... I know plenty of people here sell on Sportlots, but does anyone have experience selling via their auction section? It looks like it might be a good place to move lots of lower-end parallels and inserts, but I want to know if it's worth the time and effort before jumping right into it. ]]> Baseball DeliciousBacon http://www.freedomcardboard.com/forum/baseball/123283-anyone-here-sell-sportlots-auctions.html <![CDATA[1 box of 2011 ITG Heroes & Prospects "Hits" from WalMart]]> http://www.freedomcardboard.com/forum/baseball-box-breaks/123282-1-box-2011-itg-heroes-prospects-hits-walmart.html Wed, 22 May 2013 16:08:43 GMT Forgot to post this break last weekend. Got autos of: Kyle Parker Cory Spangenburg Cesar Puello Jose Sale and a Johnny Bench/Phillipe... Forgot to post this break last weekend.

Got autos of:

Kyle Parker
Cory Spangenburg
Cesar Puello
Jose Sale

and a Johnny Bench/Phillipe Valiquatte dual patch Silver Edition. Sort of a weird pairing with that one. The bench patch appears to be the piping on his sleeve. Any idea on a print run?


]]> Baseball Box Breaks sigma_chi http://www.freedomcardboard.com/forum/baseball-box-breaks/123282-1-box-2011-itg-heroes-prospects-hits-walmart.html 1 2013 Blaster Bowman http://www.freedomcardboard.com/forum/baseball-box-breaks/123281-1-2013-blaster-bowman.html Wed, 22 May 2013 16:04:37 GMT Had some fun breaking the fatties last night (Value Packs) I thought since I had to go back to Walter World for the wife's Meds. I hit the card aisle and randomly grabbed a blaster. And yes all of this was in the box.

The 2 miller cards where together and the Hunter Morris Mini was right behind the Miller Mini. I thought it was something else like a relic or something since the back was thicker then the others. :lol: The bottom right card is a purple refractor. And before you ask yes I bought a lottery ticket for tonight :lol: :lol:
]]> Baseball Box Breaks Pine Tar http://www.freedomcardboard.com/forum/baseball-box-breaks/123281-1-2013-blaster-bowman.html WTB Mike Trout,Bryce Harper,Starling Marte,Jean Segura,Matt Harvey and Shelby Miller http://www.freedomcardboard.com/forum/baseball-transactions/123280-mike-trout-bryce-harper-starling-marte-jean-segura-matt-harvey-shelby-miller.html Wed, 22 May 2013 15:07:40 GMT Looking for anything of them even base/inserts. If you have autos of I have some high end for trade. Mostly looking to trade Thanks Looking for anything of them even base/inserts.
If you have autos of I have some high end for trade.
Mostly looking to trade

Thanks ]]> Baseball - Transactions Jaysfan1913 http://www.freedomcardboard.com/forum/baseball-transactions/123280-mike-trout-bryce-harper-starling-marte-jean-segura-matt-harvey-shelby-miller.html 2011-12 Artifacts - Emerald /65 Jersey-Patches http://www.freedomcardboard.com/forum/set-builders/123279-2011-12-artifacts-emerald-65-jersey-patches.html Wed, 22 May 2013 14:24:17 GMT Image: http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n627/jefferz940/Personal%20Collection/1.jpg Image:...



























































































































































































]]> Set Builders jefferz940 http://www.freedomcardboard.com/forum/set-builders/123279-2011-12-artifacts-emerald-65-jersey-patches.html 2010-2011 Panini - Dominion - Peerless Patches http://www.freedomcardboard.com/forum/set-builders/123278-2010-2011-panini-dominion-peerless-patches.html Wed, 22 May 2013 14:19:33 GMT Here is a work in progress, about half way done.... 2nd half will be expensive and a long work in progress I would imagine.... Still looking for:... Here is a work in progress, about half way done.... 2nd half will be expensive and a long work in progress I would imagine....

Still looking for:
Rinne - help
Nash - help
Del Zotto - help
Fleury - help
HULL - $$$$
Mariuk - help
OVY - $$$
Ward - help
MALKIN - $$$
LEMIEUX - $$$
[b]CROSBY - $$$[/
ROY - $$$


























































]]> Set Builders jefferz940 http://www.freedomcardboard.com/forum/set-builders/123278-2010-2011-panini-dominion-peerless-patches.html