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    Fake 1998 Griffey Master Piece from Probstein Auction and other Fake MPs

    I won't keep beating on this, but there is the effort underway to clean up all these uncut sheet, post stamp cards, as well as replacements. The overall plan is to educate and provide authenticating guidelines on cards like the MP's and other rare Fleer cards. I have mentioned in other threads...
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    Oh Super Sweet 90's Inserts.... #3

    I don't think what you have said is correct. It was not protocol at Fleer to create two cards for the MPs and hold one as a replacement. Further, if you look at the uncut MP basketball sheets someone posted the link too, none of them were stamped with the final lettering. So it Fleer did not...
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    Griffey Collector's Thread

    I am also working on a project with the lead designer and manufacture at Fleer from 1989-2001 to help identify fakes. We have spent a lot of time on the MP cards in particular since so much fraud takes place in the three major sports. Take a look at the Jeter Protstein has listed and how quality...
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    Fake 1998 Griffey Master Piece from Probstein Auction and other Fake MPs

    I am also working on a project with the lead designer and manufacture at Fleer from 1989-2001 to help identify fakes. We have spent a lot of time on the MP cards in particular since so much fraud takes place in the three major sports. Take a look at the Jeter Protstein has listed and how...
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    Oh Super Sweet 90's Inserts.... #3

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    Griffey Collector's Thread

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    Fake 1998 Griffey Master Piece from Probstein Auction and other Fake MPs

    I bought mine five years ago from the Ted Yates collection. If you are not familiar with his collection do a Beckett utube video search and you will see what I mean. If you look close at the stamping on the back of the fake Griffey, it is not good quality. Letters run together or are larger...
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    Fake 1998 Griffey Master Piece from Probstein Auction and other Fake MPs

    Hi, if anyone is bidding on the 1998 MP listed by Probsetin, it is a fake as I own the real one. The person took a sheet cut card and stamped it themselves, poorly. There is also a Jeter listed that I know the real collector who has it. The Jeter listed has an even worse stamp on the back...
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    Oh Super Sweet 90's Inserts.... #3

    If anyone is bidding on this card, it is a fake. I own the real one. Someone took the card from an uncut sheet and stamped it. In addition, Probstein has been selling a lot of fakes from the 1998 MP set over the years. They all seem to use SGC. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1998-Flair-S...wAAOSwFfhXjQbx
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    Griffey Collector's Thread

    If anyone is bidding on this card, it is a fake. I own the real one. Someone took the card from an uncut sheet and stamped it. In addition, Probstein has been selling a lot of fakes from the 1998 MP set over the years. They all seem to use SGC...
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    Oh Super Sweet 90's Inserts.... #3

    I agree it is horrible what is going on. The fact that the listing is also outright false does not help. I have a number of the star players from the set, so it is irritating to see these sheet cuts, let alone positioned as "proofs". Everyone just calls these sheet cards or what ever...
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    Griffey Collector's Thread

    Yes, you are right, it is mainly focusing on high end cards, where the fakes and fraud generally take place. No one is going to care about 1994 Fleer Ultra cards, but Gem Masters, PMGs, E-X Credentials are ones collectors will be concerned with. In addition, stories on how the cards were...
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    Griffey Collector's Thread

    The service may ultimately be "free" as well, with the collector just paying a fee to cover the cost of grading/authenticating. The idea behind the project is to restore some stability around fraud and misinformation, rather then profit. A few notable collectors have been privately working...
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    Griffey Collector's Thread

    It actually start out with Fleer cards, as there is a lot of fraud, etc in Basketball as well as in Baseball around the Masterpice cards, etc. The service will actually use science for authentication and grading rather than a person. Think more like a forensic analysis of the card and have...
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    Griffey Collector's Thread

    This is just Beckett and JSA being lazy again. Their answer to anytime some effort needs to be put into grading a card is to just ban it. For them, grading 1990 Topps or a high end auto card is the same cost, so they would rather not take on the headache. Though it is pretty pathetic that...

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