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Manfred makes 5 suggestions for the future of MLB, which do you love/hate?

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homerun28aa

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Hate:
1) Three pitchers per game - Um, what if two of them get injured?
2) Hit By Pitch, three bases - Don't like it because it's left to the discretion of the umpire, a lot of times those guys get retaliation wrong IMO

Like:
1) Home run derby after 10 Innings - Great idea IMO, a 16+ inning game can be detrimental to the team's for multiple games after. So you win one game, but then you drain your bullpen and have to rest people day's later, lack of sleep, etc. Home run derby is fun for the fans. I would be against this in the post-season though
2) Reinstate Pete Rose - I mean come on, the guy is the all-time hit king, he's fully and completely admitted wrongdoing. He didn't stab a guy like Cobb was accused of, he bet on baseball. He's suffered 25 years, let the guy be reinstated.

Not sure:
1) Baseball standings points based on series - have to think this one through

http://www.aol.com/article/2015/04/...ing-grid7|main5|dl20|sec1_lnk3&pLid=896191013

Thoughts??

Edit: Sorry seems like the article writer made those suggestions the initial title was a bit confusing. But anyways still interesting to discuss
 
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Brewer Andy

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I'd be ok if Rose gets reinstated. Those other 4 are 4 of the worst suggestions I've ever heard. I am down for the 2 batter minimum for relievers though (not related). I think that gets implemented eventually
 

homerun28aa

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I'd be ok if Rose gets reinstated. Those other 4 are 4 of the worst suggestions I've ever heard. I am down for the 2 batter minimum for relievers though (not related). I think that gets implemented eventually

Yeah thinking about the series thing it just doesn't make sense to be honest, but I do like the HR Derby idea. I mean a 17 inning regular season game is just not necessary and like I said what if it's the last game in a 3 game series for the Yankees playing an evening game in LA with an afternoon home game at Yankee Stadium the next day. It just doesn't seem necessary at all maybe cap it at 11-12 innings but I hate those never ending regular season games where you wear out your entire bullpen.
 

fordman

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Yeah thinking about the series thing it just doesn't make sense to be honest, but I do like the HR Derby idea. I mean a 17 inning regular season game is just not necessary and like I said what if it's the last game in a 3 game series for the Yankees playing an evening game in LA with an afternoon home game at Yankee Stadium the next day. It just doesn't seem necessary at all maybe cap it at 11-12 innings but I hate those never ending regular season games where you wear out your entire bullpen.

I wont say it doesnt happen, but usually when an east coast team plays out on the west coast (vice versa), the next day is usually a day off with the time difference, airport delays, hotel-shuttle-traffic delays included into the equation. Usually the east coast team will hit most if not all of their west coast games in the same trip.

Yes, reinstate Pete Rose.

No to home run derby. As the rules are now, once the player is out of the game, he out until the game is complete. Do you just allow a hitter back into the game because he hits well?

I will agree that when a relief pitcher comes into a game, he has a two batter minimum. The Reds had a game this year where Manny Para came into the game, one pitch, hit to 2B and the third out was recorded. He didnt see another game for 5 days or so.

Is that a MUST USE at least three pitchers per game minimum or maximum? If your third guy is out there and the game is tied, he could be out there for many innings. Hello Tommy John!

Fordman
 

homerun28aa

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I wont say it doesnt happen, but usually when an east coast team plays out on the west coast (vice versa), the next day is usually a day off with the time difference, airport delays, hotel-shuttle-traffic delays included into the equation. Usually the east coast team will hit most if not all of their west coast games in the same trip.

Yes, reinstate Pete Rose.

No to home run derby. As the rules are now, once the player is out of the game, he out until the game is complete. Do you just allow a hitter back into the game because he hits well?

I will agree that when a relief pitcher comes into a game, he has a two batter minimum. The Reds had a game this year where Manny Para came into the game, one pitch, hit to 2B and the third out was recorded. He didnt see another game for 5 days or so.

Is that a MUST USE at least three pitchers per game minimum or maximum? If your third guy is out there and the game is tied, he could be out there for many innings. Hello Tommy John!

Fordman

The three pitcher per game rule I believe was a max, but it's a stupid rule no matter what. I don't like the two batter minimum, yes when a relief pitcher comes into the game to face one batter and leave that's a huge delay in the game and it's annoying but there is a lot of strategy that goes into that decision. Something like that IMO separates good managers from great managers, never let even one batter face a pitcher you don't want them facing. Just my take.

HR Derby I can for sure see the skeptics. I agree with you in that once a player is out, he's out, no HR Derby. I think it'd be wildly exciting for the fans, could be overall bad for the game though I can see the criticism.
 

homerun28aa

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Come to think of it I don't like the HR Derby idea. The reason I personally don't like it anymore is it gives teams who are power hitter heavy an unfair advantage, that's not good for the game or the fans IMO.
 

rsmath

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Hate:
1) Three pitchers per game - Um, what if two of them get injured?
2) Hit By Pitch, three bases - Don't like it because it's left to the discretion of the umpire, a lot of times those guys get retaliation wrong IMO

totally agree with the hates, but for other reasons. 3 Pitchers Per Game - there is no pitcher reuse rule, a manager has to utilize resources effectively in trying to win the game because the manager doesn't want to blow through all available pitchers for a game and have to forfeit in extras. Also, if you are going to limit things to 3 pitchers per game, a club may carry just 9 pitchers instead of 13 so that leaves you four more sluggers/defense specialists and I don't think anyone wants to see the game get more offensive heavy than it already is.

HBP, 3 bases. It's a hard play to get right in some cases, just like checkswing or foul tip. Do you want a game to be decided because a umpire screws up in awarding a batter a HBP and the next batter sac flys him home for the walkoff win?


Like:
1) Home run derby after 10 Innings -
2) Reinstate Pete Rose - I mean come on, the guy is the all-time hit king, he's fully and completely admitted wrongdoing.

Not sure:
1) Baseball standings points based on series - have to think this one through

HR derby after 10 inn - hate. I hate penalty kicks in soccer, hate shootouts in hockey, and hate the lame college football put ball on 25 yard line and alternate possessions until one has a higher scoring possession than the other one. Let baseballers play ball as it's a survival of the mentally tough as the game wears on. If you are going to warm me up to HR derby as a decider, it will have to be when there is still a tie after 18 innings.

reinstate pete rose - I'm fine with it for MLB since it's essentially been a multi-decade penalty, but it doesn't mean automatic HOF eligibility if people want reinstatement just to get pete a chance to get to the hall.

baseball series points - hate. Any team that legitimately wants to get to the postseason or needs to make up ground in a division to get into division title contention should be motivated enough to need to win 3 out of every 4 games on a regular basis, there shouldn't have to be points awarded as a motivator.
 

Hawk8

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Reinstate Pete and leave the rest alone. I like extra inning games, don't care what it does for the teams involved, they should have scored one more run if they didn't want to go to extras, and I'm fine with a reliever coming in and throwing one pitch, it's all strategy.
 

Lancemountain

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Home Run Derby to decide an actual game?


The single most asinine idea ever. Hey lets blow our hitters out of their timing and decide a professional game on something that has nothing to do with the actual game.


Anyway why are we trying to change the game? It's great how it is.....I'd remove the DH from the AL and find a way to speed the pitching up but other than that leave this game alone!!
 

AnthonyCorona

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Home Run Derby to decide an actual game?


The single most asinine idea ever. Hey lets blow our hitters out of their timing and decide a professional game on something that has nothing to do with the actual game.


Anyway why are we trying to change the game? It's great how it is.....I'd remove the DH from the AL and find a way to speed the pitching up but other than that leave this game alone!!

I think batters staying n the box has sped the game up a little this year but I think a robotic strike zone would be better for the game. Umpires seem to get worse every year with balls and strikes. Few of these guys are ever consistent throughout the game and I hate hearing about an UMP being a pitcher or hitter friendly. The strike zone shouldn't change day to day or even inning to inning, I think that would move the game along nicely
 

gt2590

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Haven't HR Derbys at AS Games seem to hurt that guys Production in the 2nd half? I'm assuming Regular Season games only?

Either way, it's the Dumbest idea on that list but those other 3 are stupid too.

I'm fine with Rose either way but agree to "Shoeless" being re-instated first. And I also agree with Relievers having to face at least 2 batters...
 

corockies

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Do the home runs hit in the HR Derby extra innings games go towards season totals? Because Bonds season HR total is in jeopardy if so.
 

kryslarry

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Agree with Rose and Jackson being re-instated, and then taking their chance with the voters. If they want to speed up the game, when they bring a reliever in, give him only two pitches and then play ball. He is already warm from the bullpen. Unless injury of course, then the normal rules apply.
 

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