Dilemna with a lost package

lisu · Oct 1, 2015

So, here's the situation - I bought 2 jumbo and 2 hobby cases of 2015 Bowman Chrome from a friend who is an online breaker. He shipped the cards to me via priority flat rate (just standard $100 insurance). The box is MIA. The tracking shows as delivered but I didn't get the package.

I have asked my PO to try to find it, but at this point, I'm not hopeful. Pending on if the box is truly lost - what would you do?

I feel a bit torn because I know that it's painful for my friend if I file claims on all of the cases...but he should have insured the package, right? I'm also a little worried because he hasn't volunteered to pay me back or anything like that if it doesn't turn up.

What would you do?

Nate Colbert 17 · Oct 1, 2015

If he's your friend, he should make it right by you.

jcmint · Oct 1, 2015

Lisu freinds is friends but business is business its not on you anything over 250 needs to be signed for.

IndyManning18 · Oct 1, 2015

The total amount you paid should have been insured.

lisu · Oct 1, 2015

So, now here's the issue - the breaker is super pissed that I filed a chargeback, and it turns out that I paid him $2700 out of the $4k via gift, and he's refusing to refund those.

I mean - seriously - he better think long and hard about it because I've spent close to $40k with him this year, and I know a lot of people.

Nate Colbert 17 · Oct 1, 2015

Hmm...if he refuses to make this right, perhaps a visit from the Freedom Cardboard Mafia is in order?

...or maybe the Robot Mafia.

jcmint · Oct 1, 2015

out him if he dont, you are known as a good person in this hobby youd be surprised how far your words can go

George_Calfas · Oct 1, 2015

lisu said:
So, now here's the issue - the breaker is super pissed that I filed a chargeback, and it turns out that I paid him $2700 out of the $4k via gift, and he's refusing to refund those.

I mean - seriously - he better think long and hard about it because I've spent close to $40k with him this year, and I know a lot of people.

You can do a charge back on a gift payment as well but you must call PayPal. I had to do this two years back when I sent a gift payment to boomo and misspelled his email address and the payment went elsewhere.

jcmint · Oct 1, 2015

thats Tricky George she has made payments to this seller before, she should try but its not that cut and dry

George_Calfas said:
You can do a charge back on a gift payment as well but you must call PayPal. I had to do this two years back when I sent a gift payment to boomo and misspelled his email address and the payment went elsewhere.

George_Calfas · Oct 1, 2015

jcmint said:
thats Tricky George she has made payments to this seller before, she should try but its not that cut and dry

No doubt, but she's got to try

lisu · Oct 1, 2015

I think he will make it right - he was super upset at me for filing claims for the ones that I could, but now he's being more reasonable and promises to make it right. We'll see what happens.

dano7 · Oct 1, 2015

Please keep everyone posted on that.
DANNY

bigalbert · Oct 1, 2015

If it shows as delivered do you really have a claim? Just wondering about that part.
I had a package shown as delivered and didn't get it and tried a chargeback and was denied.

aarne13 · Oct 1, 2015

Have you considered putting a webcam at your entrance? Keep track of who drops off mail etc. I've have USPS mark packages as "delivered" when they have been in transit (and delivered next day).

Hendersonfan · Oct 1, 2015

Our new scanners (I work at Post Office) can show who scanned the package and where they were when they scanned it. They can tell if it was your doorstep or your neighbors.

predatorkj · Oct 1, 2015

Hendersonfan said:
Our new scanners (I work at Post Office) can show who scanned the package and where they were when they scanned it. They can tell if it was your doorstep or your neighbors.

That's good to know.

predatorkj · Oct 1, 2015

bigalbert said:
If it shows as delivered do you really have a claim? Just wondering about that part.
I had a package shown as delivered and didn't get it and tried a chargeback and was denied.

You pay with your bank account or a cc and you should have a leg to stand on. PayPal may not want to do a refund but your cc or bank might. And then it's between them and PayPal.

CollectorsCorner · Oct 2, 2015

bigalbert said:
If it shows as delivered do you really have a claim? Just wondering about that part.
I had a package shown as delivered and didn't get it and tried a chargeback and was denied.

If the package didn't have signature confirmation at that price point then yes

lisu · Oct 2, 2015

FYI - I have a PO Box. I've put in requests at the local post office to find out what happened to our package. I get a LOT of packages believe me. I think they put the box with a different PO Box. The delivered message says Delivered - Post Office.

lisu · Oct 2, 2015

and final update - the box was delivered today - even though it said it was delivered on Monday - UGH. It's so frustrating sometimes dealing with the post office, but thank god it made it.

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