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One More Reason Not to Like Probstein

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smapdi

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I don't understand what the problem is. Are you familiar with that set? There were several different types of manufactured patches used at different print run tiers. They weren't described as game-used, just as design elements. Probstein isn't saying it's GU, either.

There were GU patches, but they were much smaller and identified as such.
 

16christensen16

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The card is 100% legit. It is not game used and it doesn't say it is either. 2004 sweet spot classic had all kinds of manufacturing patches just like this clemente.
 

Hawk8

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Andre Dawson has 9 different manufactured patches in this set including an MLB logo patch /25 that I have never seen surface on eBay
 

RStadlerASU22

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Yeah, a lil research will show the set was made that way. If anyone is buying that thinking its a GU Patch, that's on them...

Ryan
 

WCTYSON

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Yeah, a lil research will show the set was made that way. If anyone is buying that thinking its a GU Patch, that's on them...

Ryan

You do not think there is anything the seller could do to clarify exactly what the item is, in the title or somewhere in the listing?
 

AnthonyCorona

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My first wife bought me a fake logo card of Clemens for my birthday many years ago. Luckily she got "a great deal" for only 40 otherwise I would have been all over that seller for a refund. Nothing to do with this topic but I thought I'd chime in anyway
 

RStadlerASU22

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You do not think there is anything the seller could do to clarify exactly what the item is, in the title or somewhere in the listing?

No , they aren't trying to deceive. Could they add info, yes. Blame the manufacture for making these.

Ryan
 
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WCTYSON

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No , they aren't trying to deceive. Could they add info, yes. Blame the manufacture for making these.

What do the backs of the cards say? Notice how there is not a scan of the back either in the listing? Probably just an oversight, right? I did not say they were trying to be deceptive but they certainly do not add clarity either.
 

Dilferules

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What do the backs of the cards say? Notice how there is not a scan of the back either in the listing? Probably just an oversight, right? I did not say they were trying to be deceptive but they certainly do not add clarity either.

Most auctions of modern cards don't have scans of the back, and it seems like most sellers nowadays go out of their way to not say anything about the card other than "LOOK AT THE SCAN". It's not really a Probstein thing.
 

WCTYSON

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Most auctions of modern cards don't have scans of the back, and it seems like most sellers nowadays go out of their way to not say anything about the card other than "LOOK AT THE SCAN". It's not really a Probstein thing.

Certainly is not but neither is clarity apparently.
 

Calripkenjrcollector

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No, I did not buy this from Probstein. Bought this way back when.....


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mlbsalltimegreats

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Of all the things to blame probstien for, lol, this is not one of them. Anthonycorona made a good point and I think it's up to us the collectors to educate anyone we may think is going to buy for themselves or others so people don't get burnt. There are many that don't follow message boards and fall for the obvious as the poster who posted this. He thought probstien was trying to fool people again while the rest of us knew what was up with the card. Yes I find it comical only because I'm so educated in this field but it's a serious problem for those who do not know or with limited knowledge. I don't like to see anyone get burnt. I've been there!
 

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