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mrmopar
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I have a small moral dilemma, but first a small back story…
I noticed some time back that ebay changed the way autographed cards can apparently be listed. They used to be found most often under the "autograph" category. I buy a fair number of signed cards and liked to narrow the search to signed trading cards. Apparently it is not possible to list them that way now. I noticed that they are under baseball cards, but autograph is no longer a category, but a card attribute. Now I could be wrong here too, as I don't often sell anything and have not really studied the seller listing options.
That said, I won a signed card from the Topps Fan Favorites set. The seller is a consignment operation. As I went to pay, I noticed that this card didn't have the Topps certified autographed insignia on it. There was no scan of the back of the card. I checked my copies (this would have been a duplicate) and verified that the pack pulled versions have the Topps autograph insignia on front and a holo sticker on back as well.
Here is where the dilemma come in. I admit to my mistakes and I pay for my wins when I make a mistake, but this time I am not feeling it.
I didn't look close enough at the photo when I set up my snipe and didn't notice that it was not a pack pulled card, a kind of similar mistake I have made before and one I will probably make again. I admit it. I also didn't check to see exactly where the item was listed (categorically). In the end, it was listed under this category: Sports Mem, Cards & Fan Shop>Sports Trading Cards>Baseball Cards. I do not know how to see if it had autograph as an attribute. I asked the seller to please cancel my win, as I had believed this to be a certified copy of the card and it was not. The price I got it for was not spectacularly cheap, but I would say it was still slightly under what I would expect a certified copy to sell for. It was more than I'd pay for a TTM/IP on a modern retro base set, that is for sure! The seller simply responded that it was pack pulled and nothing more. I replied back that is was not, and provided photographic proof of what a pack pulled copy would look like for this set. The seller didn't reply. Today I see a case was opened up for non-payment.
I will most likely opt to take the non-paying strike before I buy the card, despite how much blame I should shoulder myself in this case, but the kicker is that the seller told me via ebay messaging that the card was pack pulled, therefore I believe that it was listed with that intention to begin with. I believe I would have a case for "not as advertised" if I paid and filed a case against them to get the refund, plus it would be a hassle and I would probably lose money with return shipping.
We'll see if they value my business as a repeat customer and honor my request to cancel the transaction or if they will insist on seeing it through, at which time I will most likely become a "former" customer.
I noticed some time back that ebay changed the way autographed cards can apparently be listed. They used to be found most often under the "autograph" category. I buy a fair number of signed cards and liked to narrow the search to signed trading cards. Apparently it is not possible to list them that way now. I noticed that they are under baseball cards, but autograph is no longer a category, but a card attribute. Now I could be wrong here too, as I don't often sell anything and have not really studied the seller listing options.
That said, I won a signed card from the Topps Fan Favorites set. The seller is a consignment operation. As I went to pay, I noticed that this card didn't have the Topps certified autographed insignia on it. There was no scan of the back of the card. I checked my copies (this would have been a duplicate) and verified that the pack pulled versions have the Topps autograph insignia on front and a holo sticker on back as well.
Here is where the dilemma come in. I admit to my mistakes and I pay for my wins when I make a mistake, but this time I am not feeling it.
I didn't look close enough at the photo when I set up my snipe and didn't notice that it was not a pack pulled card, a kind of similar mistake I have made before and one I will probably make again. I admit it. I also didn't check to see exactly where the item was listed (categorically). In the end, it was listed under this category: Sports Mem, Cards & Fan Shop>Sports Trading Cards>Baseball Cards. I do not know how to see if it had autograph as an attribute. I asked the seller to please cancel my win, as I had believed this to be a certified copy of the card and it was not. The price I got it for was not spectacularly cheap, but I would say it was still slightly under what I would expect a certified copy to sell for. It was more than I'd pay for a TTM/IP on a modern retro base set, that is for sure! The seller simply responded that it was pack pulled and nothing more. I replied back that is was not, and provided photographic proof of what a pack pulled copy would look like for this set. The seller didn't reply. Today I see a case was opened up for non-payment.
I will most likely opt to take the non-paying strike before I buy the card, despite how much blame I should shoulder myself in this case, but the kicker is that the seller told me via ebay messaging that the card was pack pulled, therefore I believe that it was listed with that intention to begin with. I believe I would have a case for "not as advertised" if I paid and filed a case against them to get the refund, plus it would be a hassle and I would probably lose money with return shipping.
We'll see if they value my business as a repeat customer and honor my request to cancel the transaction or if they will insist on seeing it through, at which time I will most likely become a "former" customer.