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    Interesting Read on 1990 Topps George Bush + Musings

    This article is a mere 4 years old today, but I've never seen it and enjoyed the read, as well as the questions that it kicked up in my head.

    https://www.psacard.com/articles/art...-baseball-card

    Cliff's notes: The story on this card is that 100 were made and specifically presented to/for the White House. The quantity has been challenged, as Topps sheets typically have 132 on them, and some card shop owners in Illinois claimed to pull one from a pack, even though Topps claimed it as being impossible. A former Topps employee also took 70 copies and sold them privately.



    Here is where it gets interesting.

    A former governer/white house chief of staff submitted some of these to PSA for grading. PSA thought they were odd, because they all had an amateurish looking glossy cover that sloppily overlapped the edges of the card. This was different than what the others they had seen in the past looked like (regular issue 1990 Topps card stock and finish).

    PSA reached out to the former Topps CEO Arthur Shorin (pictured above) to investigate further. He had a copy of this card that was signed by Bush, and sure enough, his had the same coating. The signature was on top of the coating.

    Based upon these two things, while they believe both non glossy and glossy to be authentic, PSA concluded that the glossy versions were the only ones that made their way to the White House. Because of these assumptions, they place a distinction of "White House Issue" nowadays on the PSA label for the ones that are glossy.

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    While there is a visible distinction between the two, it is interesting that perhaps the journey of the card may in fact increase the value of the cards themselves. As a collector, I can see the draw and interest in cards that were at the White House, even though they are essentially the same card, though one appears to have an amateurish laminate on them, which would otherwise be counted as having destroyed the card.

    PSA made another interesting note that most high grade T206 cards you see likely did not sit in dingy tobacco containers for years, but rather may have come from uncirculated circumstances. Same with the '50s food issues. A high grade 1954 Wilson's Franks card was probably not pulled from a hotdog package either.

    Anyway, many interesting thoughts go through my mind here. Some of the most fun hobby stories are due to controversy, whether they be from the back story of the 2010 Upper Deck buyback anniversary stamped cards, the pacific bankruptcy plates, or various Topps test issues - it is all great fun to learn about, but it makes me wonder why/where/how/who draws the line for what when it comes to crossing the line from being worthless to significantly more valuable than a regular version.
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    Does anyone here actually know someone finding a non glossy in a pack?

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    The 1990 Topps George Bush card along with a handful of other junk wax gems will be one of those cards that stands the test of time. A truly amazing card that I have been contemplating trying to get upon the next one popponents up on the auction block. While searching the Web last week I came upon this which goes along with the article.

    http://smalltraditions.com/LotDetail...entoryid=32222

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    Quote Originally Posted by BBCgalaxee View Post
    Does anyone here actually know someone finding a non glossy in a pack?

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    I don't think that is possible.

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    In addition to Doerr and others, I also have an avid Political card collection going.

    The 1990 Topps George Bush "White House Edition" is my Most Wanted and Holy Grail card out there that I want to add to my collection.

    Always found the story fascinating, especially so as Gov. Sununu is a legend in my home state of New Hampshire and love the connections all the way around.

    I read this story 4 years ago and was great to read once again- Thanks for revisiting it Tanner.

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    Speaking of this card. Just saw this monster pop up. The seller is 'entertaining' offers.

    http://m.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R...sacat=0&_pgn=1

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    Quote Originally Posted by sierra79 View Post
    Speaking of this card. Just saw this monster pop up. The seller is 'entertaining' offers.

    http://m.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R...sacat=0&_pgn=1
    bad linky ... what is it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mouschi View Post
    bad linky ... what is it?
    Ditto!

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    Great read and card. Thanks for posting.

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    Was a high grade sgc Bush

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    Quote Originally Posted by mouschi View Post
    bad linky ... what is it?
    Sorry about the link, probably something with my phone.

    It's the only 1990 Topps Bush on eBay at the moment, and it is indeed a really high grade (SGC 96). Seller is asking $50K OBO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sierra79 View Post
    Sorry about the link, probably something with my phone.

    It's the only 1990 Topps Bush on eBay at the moment, and it is indeed a really high grade (SGC 96). Seller is asking $50K OBO.
    That's all?
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