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    If Nick Markakis (poll)

    I was thinking about Beltre getting # 3000 and then this came to mind...

    If Nick Markakis got 3000 hits and 600 doubles should he be a Hall of famer?

    It is possible, if he can be consistent until 40 years old.

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    3K should be automatic

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    If he gets in the HOF that is a sure sign it has become the Hall of Pretty Good. While he is a consistent good player, he has done nothing to stand out.


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    Asked another way, should you be a hall of famer based on career numbers alone? He would likely be the first hofer that never made an all star game.

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    Literally nothing. He likely won't be an every day player beyond 35. At that point he doesn't provide enough to justify a starting role over the next 22 year old. Solid player, solid career but if for some reason he ages extremely well and for some reason has a job and cracks out 150 hits for the next 7 years he's still not remotely a HOFer


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    How many players that have 3000 hits are not in the HOF?
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    He's got no shot at 3000.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jjoey52 View Post
    If he gets in the HOF that is a sure sign it has become the Hall of Pretty Good. While he is a consistent good player, he has done nothing to stand out.


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    HOF has been a joke for years anyway.

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    Can someone who has never made a single All-Star team make it to the Hall? I mean, it's not a rule for eligibility, and reaching one of the magic numbers in the sport gives you some pretty good legitimacy, but it would be a real dilemma.
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    If Nick Markakis (poll)

    Quote Originally Posted by cgilmo View Post
    He's got no shot at 3000.


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    This.

    The question is largely theoretical because of how hard 3000 hits is.

    Same with Jaime Moyer and 300 wins. He pitched for 25 years but if you aren't pretty good...

    Of course one day a Juan Pierre type player will break that idea. If not for his defense some might say that Ichiro kind if did...


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    If Markakis somehow got to 3000 hits, I think he should be in the HOF. He very well could be considered the worst HOFer, but 3000 hits is such an iconic stat in baseball that I think he should be in. But I don't think he has any realistic shot to get there. Even at his modest $11 million salary, he will eventually be replaced by a younger, cheaper player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Topnotchsy View Post
    This.

    The question is largely theoretical because of how hard 3000 hits is.

    Same with Jaime Moyer and 300 wins. He pitched for 25 years but if you aren't pretty good...

    Of course one day a Juan Pierre type player will break that idea. If not for his defense some might say that Ichiro kind if did...


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    It seems like we had this discussion when Pierre was at about the same point in his career. In 2011, during his age 33 season, Pierre recorded hit number 2000 (same as Markakis). Pierre didn't play past age 35. Maybe Markakis will last longer, but there is almost no chance of him being a full time player for 6 more years.

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    It doesn't matter whether you believe he's still just hall of very good or any of that nonsense, if he gets 3k hits, he is getting in.

    But he has no shot at 3k hits so it's a moot point.
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    If someone...anyone stays productive long enough for a major league team to keep giving him money and that player accumulates 3,000 hits and 600 doubles that's hall of fame worthy. I don't care how the player is perceived, the goal in the game is to produce for your team so the team wins games.
    It just so happens that most hall of famers have some kind of electric quality that they are remembered for. Under no circumstances do I think Markakis gets to 3,000, but if he did I'd vote for him. How could someone achieve more than 99.9% of players ever in such a key statistic and not go in???

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    Quote Originally Posted by cgilmo View Post
    He's got no shot at 3000.


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    I wouldn't say that. In baseball its never over till its over... to quote the great Yogi.

    All he needs to do is to keep his production at current levels for the next six years and he gets 3000. Or he could keep it at current levels for the next four years (age 37) and then play sub-par until he is 41. I would think that his chances are at the very least measurable....
    Last edited by e.v.; 08-09-2017 at 02:30 PM.

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