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    Quote Originally Posted by AnthonyCorona View Post
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    The attitude since at least the late 80s with Schmidt and Reggie seemed to be that going 1-4 with 3 Ks and a home run is a slugger doing his job. Going 2-4 with 2 singles is not his job. It's definitely not the black mark it used to be, but when you start seeing 200 +/- being the K leader's total every year, it does make you wonder if shortening up and trying to just drive a ball the other way once in a while wouldn't be more useful.
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    Started watching late tonight, but it Looks like he struck out again. That should tie Dunn's record


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    Quote Originally Posted by smapdi View Post
    The attitude since at least the late 80s with Schmidt and Reggie seemed to be that going 1-4 with 3 Ks and a home run is a slugger doing his job. Going 2-4 with 2 singles is not his job. It's definitely not the black mark it used to be, but when you start seeing 200 +/- being the K leader's total every year, it does make you wonder if shortening up and trying to just drive a ball the other way once in a while wouldn't be more useful.
    Every once and a while David Ortiz would drop a bunt to third or make a slap swing to left to beat the shift, no one is hitting 200 homers so why try? Being productive is good, striking out 200 times is crazy to me...and I've grown up in the era where it's been "ok". For the record I'm not saying that if you strike out that much you can't be productive but I just can't grasp the all or nothing mindset when there are so many other possibilities that are productive

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    Game has changed. In 1950 yogi Berra had 656pa and only 12 strike outs.. Unreal


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    If you want an amazing eye and patience at the plate, check out Joe Sewell. 114 K's career in over 8000 PA. After a "rough" couple years in double digit K's and topping out at a career seasonal high 20 K's, he got it under control and kept under 10 K's a year for the rest of his career!



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    Game has changed. In 1950 yogi Berra had 656pa and only 12 strike outs.. Unreal


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    Those old timers didnt deal with 5+ pitchers in a game, special lefty/right matchups or 101+ mph baseballs.

    A few of the guys mentioned here would still excel today, but it really isn't a good comparison.
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    Quote Originally Posted by linuxabuser View Post
    Those old timers didnt deal with 5+ pitchers in a game, special lefty/right matchups or 101+ mph baseballs.

    A few of the guys mentioned here would still excel today, but it really isn't a good comparison.
    Do you think it's the players or the approach they take? I don't like to compare players in different eras because you're right lots of things change in the game but this is something I think is more of an approach issue rather than a skill issue. If you want to call it an issue at all. Seems like growing stikeout totals don't matter to most people.

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    That's 33 straight but he also has homered.
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    Gallo is another one .
    BTW ; minor leaguer batting .189 but has 57 RBI 's is that normal ?

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    162 strikeouts and he doesn't even lead the league in k's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by death2redemptions View Post
    162 strikeouts and he doesn't even lead the league in k's.
    It's pretty interesting how he's a top 10 .OBP with that many k's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnryno View Post
    It's pretty interesting how he's a top 10 .OBP with that many k's.
    Pitchers probably afraid to throw him anything near the strike zone so he either takes the walk or swings at one of those pitches outside the zone. As a power hitter I imagine it's tough for him to just take a walk when he wants to change the game with one swing of the bat. With that OBP he obviously has good recognition of the strikezone but still tries to get greedy a little too often.

    I don't know if this is the case for him (as an AL player I don't see him play often) but that would be my take on how a relatively inexperienced power hitter may end up with a high OBP & high k rate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by death2redemptions View Post
    Pitchers probably afraid to throw him anything near the strike zone so he either takes the walk or swings at one of those pitches outside the zone. As a power hitter I imagine it's tough for him to just take a walk when he wants to change the game with one swing of the bat. With that OBP he obviously has good recognition of the strikezone but still tries to get greedy a little too often.

    I don't know if this is the case for him (as an AL player I don't see him play often) but that would be my take on how a relatively inexperienced power hitter may end up with a high OBP & high k rate.
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    What a weird season he's having. Such awful plate discipline, yet he's leading the league in walks.
    In the first half he was a triple crown candidate. But since the All-Star break he's hitting .175.
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