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    Quote Originally Posted by phillyfan0417 View Post
    Why does it matter? If you want a nice mantle piece and the logo issue is not a consideration, this is a viable option.
    Except that it was worn in an event not connected with Major League Baseball. This isn't game used.


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    Oh great, another bash Panini thread on a sports card board....

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    Quote Originally Posted by fordman View Post
    Oh great, another bash Panini thread on a sports card board....

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    Wait.......isn't that the point of a sports card board, to discuss sports cards, whether you love the product/design/company/etc or not
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    Quote Originally Posted by Musial Collector View Post
    Wait.......isn't that the point of a sports card board, to discuss sports cards, whether you love the product/design/company/etc or not
    You are correct but thread after thread of Panini and no logos gets redundant. Usually, its the panini haters that chime in every chance they get about the logo issue.

    Question the Mantle material being used is a valid and decent discussion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fordman View Post
    You are correct but thread after thread of Panini and no logos gets redundant. Usually, its the panini haters that chime in every chance they get about the logo issue.

    Question the Mantle material being used is a valid and decent discussion.

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    I'm not a stickler for the logos. I think the Ortiz / Tito card is beautiful.

    I just don't want to own one of these mantles. I don't think they are a compelling collectible after seeing where they came from.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cgilmo View Post
    I'm not a stickler for the logos. I think the Ortiz / Tito card is beautiful.

    I just don't want to own one of these mantles. I don't think they are a compelling collectible after seeing where they came from.
    That's the beauty of the hobby...there will be those who want it purely based on the fact it's from the estate and is a unique piece.
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    The Mantle relics look good until you see where they came from. I equate the relics to a guy that buys a Griffey Jr jersey at Mariners fantasy camp, plays a game in it and considers it a gamer.

    While I like Panini products, they're designs seem to be all the same the last few years and its hard to tell a 2015 Immaculate apart from the 2016 or 2017 releases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fordman View Post
    While I like Panini products, they're designs seem to be all the same the last few years and its hard to tell a 2015 Immaculate apart from the 2016 or 2017 releases.
    Luckily Panini identifies the product on the back of the card. It's the material on the card that I care about when I buy an Immaculate single, not what the design looks like.

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    I own a ton of panini cards. I started this thread, cuz I just think its lame that they couldn't get anything game used for the Aaron Judge cards. Even if his stuff is expensive, I'm sure panini can afford it. It has nothing to do with them having no logos, or the designs starting to get stale. I'm not willing to pay big money for non game used items. I also applaud their transparency, in stating what the item is, and where its from.

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    On the plus side at least they are up front about instead of the way topps handled the seat relic issue in Tribute.
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    I really don't see any issue here. They were forthright, which is a lot more than you can say for the other companies making memorabilia cards now.
    If you don't like, don't buy it.
    I'm glad Panini had the nuts to say where the jersey came from, probably knowing full well that they would catch flack from it.
    With the vague wording on the back of memorabilia cards these days it's a welcome change, even if you might not like exactly where the item came from.
    I hope we can all agree this is a step in the right direction. I mean how long has the collecting hobby been asking for oversight like this, and now that companies actually do it, we are giving them crap for it? Make no sense to me...

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    Not a fan, but who am i to tell people what they collect.

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    I give ongoing kudos to Panini for at least specifying a bit more detail into the items used versus Topps. It at least allows for a few more details so any collector can research a bit more before deciding to purchase or not.

    Also, I think there are many collectors that go after the set or team set and not just the player.

    Another example of collecting regarding the Mantle stuff in this set...there are probably Mickey Mantle card collectors that don't mind adding in this kind of stuff as it hasn't really been available (that we know of) before. I collect Felix Hernandez stuff, and I would be a bit interested in picking up some "quirky" card pieces just as long as the card has the specifics on it.

    I also wouldn't doubt that Topps has been using fantasy camp material as well. This doesn't prove it, but when you do a little research it does seem like some stuff is a bit "new" in some of the offerings based off of the look:





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