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    2017 AL Cy Young: Chris Sale or Corey Kluber?

    The AL Cy Young award has pretty much boiled down to either Chris Sale or Corey Kluber (I suppose one could argue Severino could be a dark horse candidate). Who do you believe will end up winning it?

    2017 Season Stats

    Chris Sale
    17-8, 2.90 ERA (2.45 FIP) 308 K, 0.97 WHIP
    214.1 IP, 7.16 K:BB 12.9 K/9 [7.7 fWAR 5.9 bWAR]

    Corey Kluber
    18-4, 2.25 ERA (2.49 FIP) 265 K, 0.87 WHIP
    203.2 IP, 7.36 K:BB 11.7 K/9 [7.2 fWAR 7.9 bWAR]

    In my mind it's incredibly close. Kluber has the superior ERA & WHIP while Sale has the better FIP & strikeout numbers.
    Last edited by death2redemptions; 09-30-2017 at 10:19 PM.

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    I felt like before today, Sale may have still had the edge due to innings and K's, but wouldn't win if the vote was today due to Kluber and the Indians recent performance. At the time I am writing this Kluber has pitched 3-hit ball over 7 innings with 9 K's. That may shift things for me...
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    I want to see Sale hit 300k's.
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    I've been rooting for Sale for a long time now to finally win a Cy Young. It's kind of insane to think he still doesn't have one but after today's start Kluber may have a slight advantage, especially if you are only looking at the traditional stats like wins, ERA & WHIP (Sale has the strikeout title locked down).

    Even so, if Sale can reach 300 strikeouts it will become even more difficult to deny him the Cy Young.

    It's just really, really close...

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    Sale had an ridiculously dominant start and kept it going until the past month or so when he became merely above average. I think Kluber pitching better in September will give him the voting edge. I'd cast my vote for Sale, due to how untouchable he was for the majority of the season

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    Co-award?

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    Kluber will win barring a meltdown.

    Sale will never win a Cy Young because he falls apart at the most important time every season.
    He's too thin and has no durability. He always starts out hot, then his weak muscles and tendons wear out and he loses his greatness.

    September is the only month during Sale's career in which he has a losing record and he has his worst ERA by far in September.
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    Sevy should win

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    Reported ^^^^^^^^

    EDIT: Not the Sevy post... some random spammer *used* to have a comment right above this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bmp1971 View Post
    Co-award?
    I should have included that as a 3rd option. It's always possible.

    Quote Originally Posted by Austin View Post
    Kluber will win barring a meltdown.

    Sale will never win a Cy Young because he falls apart at the most important time every season.
    He's too thin and has no durability. He always starts out hot, then his weak muscles and tendons wear out and he loses his greatness.

    September is the only month during Sale's career in which he has a losing record and he has his worst ERA by far in September.
    I don't follow Sale's monthly numbers so was not unaware of his struggles in September. Since I'm naturally curious about things like this I went to check out his career September splits. Sure enough, he has a career 7-14 record in September and while it's not "always" his worst month (Generally speaking his worst month, according to ERA, will either be April, August or September in any given season), his ERA tends to range from 3.50-5.00, with 2014 the only exception (2.52 ERA). So durability is certainly an issue with Sale. He needs to pack on some muscle weight this off-season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by linuxabuser View Post
    Reported ^^^^^^^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnthonyCorona View Post
    Come on. He's the Yankees' ace

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    lol ****! The spam comment I was pointing at that had generic viagra or whatever the hell got deleted. I love Severino!
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    Quote Originally Posted by death2redemptions View Post
    I should have included that as a 3rd option. It's always possible.



    I don't follow Sale's monthly numbers so was not unaware of his struggles in September. Since I'm naturally curious about things like this I went to check out his career September splits. Sure enough, he has a career 7-14 record in September and while it's not "always" his worst month (Generally speaking his worst month, according to ERA, will either be April, August or September in any given season), his ERA tends to range from 3.50-5.00, with 2014 the only exception (2.52 ERA). So durability is certainly an issue with Sale. He needs to pack on some muscle weight this off-season.



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