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Thread: Confirmed: Roy Halladay Dies in Plane Accident

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbone17 View Post
    I agree that people should be able to speak freely, but these two should have shown some damn respect. Oscar Taveras died in a car accident from being intoxicated. Jose Fernandez was cocaine, Josh Han**** was substance abuse, Hanson was cocaine, but lumping Halladay in the same category is incorrect. There was no mayday call to the tower. What if flew erratic due to a medical emergency? Before the facts come out, these two morons decide to form their own fatalistic opinions. What if they went up in a commercial plane and it crashed? Did they get what "they deserved"? Plenty of folks fly private planes as well and sometimes things go wrong mechanically. The moral of the story is this: show some god damn compassion for the departed, regardless of their past.
    There are reports that Halladay had been flying recklessly in the area for days. If that is true, lumping him in with those guys is absolutely appropriate.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Super Mario View Post
    Why?

    For being honest? I didn’t read anything other than the headline, but if that’s basically all they said then what’s the problem?

    Yes, I feel terrible for Roy’s family and friends, but at the end of the day if he was flying recklessly he did in fact get what he deserved.

    Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. If he chose to tempt fate, which by most accounts he did, he paid the ultimate price for it.

    We need to stop coddling people and beating around the bush and start telling the truth about these things. Roy Halladay, Oscar Taveras, Jose Fernandez, Josh Han****, Tommy Hanson, those guys were morons who killed themselves doing stupid thing. They’re not tragedies.

    Tragedies are guys like Roberto Clemente and Darryl Kile.

    Sometimes the truth hurts. But nobody should ever feel bad for telling it.
    There is a time and place for using incidents like this, Oscar Taveras, Jose Fernandez, etc. as an example for a learning moment for others. That time and place is not before the man is even buried and broadcast on a national radio show. You can teach without being an asshole. Their intent wasn't to bring light to the situation and teach. They were just trying to be inflammatory and succeeded. I have no issue with putting the truth out there but the message is lost when it is portrayed in the manner they delivered it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WizardofOz1982 View Post
    There is a time and place for using incidents like this, Oscar Taveras, Jose Fernandez, etc. as an example for a learning moment for others. That time and place is not before the man is even buried and broadcast on a national radio show. You can teach without being an asshole. Their intent wasn't to bring light to the situation and teach. They were just trying to be inflammatory and succeeded. I have no issue with putting the truth out there but the message is lost when it is portrayed in the manner they delivered it.

    It got us talking about it though, didnít it?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Super Mario View Post
    It got us talking about it though, didn’t it?
    Not in a productive manner
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    Quote Originally Posted by Super Mario View Post
    There are reports that Halladay had been flying recklessly in the area for days. If that is true, lumping him in with those guys is absolutely appropriate.
    http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/08/us/a5-...day/index.html

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    If Jose Fernandez had survived, he would have been charged with 2 counts of dui manslaughter. But since he also died everyone was boo hoo hooing and immortalizing him as such a great person with all the sleeve patches and so on. Just made me sick! He caused the death of 2 other people!!! I feel for his girlfriend and her child. NOT HIM!

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    I do not have a problem with what the 2 said, but I think they should have waited for a better time to say it. Emotions are too raw right now, also I am sure the FAA will report on it when they have all the facts.


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    This thread is becoming worse than the Anything Goes stuff

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jjoey52 View Post
    also I am sure the FAA will report on it when they have all the facts.
    The FAA's initial report is due next week, but it might take up to a year for the full report.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Super Mario View Post
    There are reports that Halladay had been flying recklessly in the area for days. If that is true, lumping him in with those guys is absolutely appropriate.
    Itís very likely, with our current video and eye witness evidence, that Halladay caused his own death by being reckless.

    We can and should discuss this but these radio jocks were gloating and sensationalizing it. Thereís a massive difference and it shows a lack of class or wit on the part of these two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gt2590 View Post
    The FAA's initial report is due next week, but it might take up to a year for the full report.
    NTSB but who's counting! Probably won't know too much in the prelim report unless the data recorders show something obvious but I expect the report in a year to be much more informative because of the time to do detailed analysis of the data and roy's toxicology and coroner info.

    as for the radio jocks, may they go to ****. I think they are just trying to make a name for themselves by saying what they say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rsmath View Post
    NTSB but who's counting!
    Thanks for the correction, missed it myself...
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    For those that want to see perfection.. MLB channel is replaying Halladay's No Hitter right now..

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