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    HOF '18 Results (43%)

    So far we are at 42.9% ballots posted and players seem to be falling into a few categories:

    75% needed for election
    5% for survival

    Locks-
    Chipper Jones (1st ballot) 98.4%
    Vlad Guerrero 94.5%
    Jim Thome (1st ballot) 93.4%

    Very Close-
    Edgar Martinez 80.8%
    Trevor Hoffman 78.0%
    Mike Mussina 73.6%

    Doubtful-
    Curt Shilling 66.5%
    Barry Bonds 65.4%
    Roger Clemens 65.4%

    RIP-
    Johnny Damon 1.6%
    Johan Santana 1.6%
    Andruw Jones 5.5%

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    Iím still amazed Edmonds fell off after one chance.





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    this ballot is loaded. I'll be happier than a clam as long as edgar stays above that threshold
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    Quote Originally Posted by Super Mario View Post
    I’m still amazed Edmonds fell off after one chance.
    That was a shocker. Nobody added his defense into the equation for some reason.

    Quote Originally Posted by michaelstepper View Post
    this ballot is loaded. I'll be happier than a clam as long as edgar stays above that threshold
    It will be very very close for him. You really need 80+% halfway through as a lot of the unlisted ballots are the party poopers who vote for 0-2 depending on year. I could have easily made the fringe category just him.

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    Thanks for the update! Looks like my favorite player will make it on the 1st ballot!

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    I got some real issues with the HOF voters. Some of these writers are so damn arrogant like they're the highest of baseball genius and us fans are simpletons who could never understand such a complex game. Then there was some DB from Cleveland who only voted for Omar and Thome since they were the only two who played there. And lastly, some voters act as if their vote grants a player immortality, it's a building, for fans, they have to get over themselves....done

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    Quote Originally Posted by u2me57 View Post
    Thanks for the update! Looks like my favorite player will make it on the 1st ballot!
    Mine too!
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    Couple of questions.
    1) Is Palmeiro not on the ballot anymore?
    2) Just curious what people think is the reasoning to vote for someone one year and not the next. i.e. Peter Gammons with Roger Clemens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by michaelstepper View Post
    this ballot is loaded. I'll be happier than a clam as long as edgar stays above that threshold
    With thome and chipper on ballet and Hoffman and vlad going in. My opinion is those will be the only 4.

    Omar is way more deserving than Edgar so in my opinion those claims will wait maybe forever.

    And to the guy that said the hof vote is messed up. You are sooooo right. I have been following this for 25 years. Itís a joke.

    Tons of examples such as you gave. Like cal and gwynn at 97+%. Who wouldnít vote for them. Etc with past players.

    Edgar is slightly above Mattingly because of Mattingly years played I never thought he was a hall
    Of famer but many people did.

    The problem with Edgar is DH obviously and the new players on ballot and soon to be the steroid guys will
    Start getting in soon. So Edgar if he ever gets in will be year 8-10 if ever.

    This has been fun because I too am always frustrated with this.

    So again the top 4 players in the opening sentence will be the only 4 that get in.

    Also, Padre fan here, Hoffman not getting in was a joke. but that does give Edgar hope because like Hoffman Best at the new type of player/trade



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    Hoffman shouldn't be a Hall of Famer. He wasn't even the best reliever on his own team for half his career.

    Vizquel isn't a Hall of Famer either. Loved him as a player but he's short of a Hall of Fame career.

    Edgar Martinez should have been elected years ago. David Ortiz will probably be 1st Ballot and he isn't half the player Edgar was.

    Andruw Jones fell into the Edmonds trap. There is absolutely zero reason he shouldn't be inducted with Chipper this year. Instead he's going to fall off the Ballot his first year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chadgwynn View Post
    With thome and chipper on ballet and Hoffman and vlad going in. My opinion is those will be the only 4.

    Omar is way more deserving than Edgar so in my opinion those claims will wait maybe forever.

    And to the guy that said the hof vote is messed up. You are sooooo right. I have been following this for 25 years. It’s a joke.

    Tons of examples such as you gave. Like cal and gwynn at 97+%. Who wouldn’t vote for them. Etc with past players.

    Edgar is slightly above Mattingly because of Mattingly years played I never thought he was a hall
    Of famer but many people did.

    The problem with Edgar is DH obviously and the new players on ballot and soon to be the steroid guys will
    Start getting in soon. So Edgar if he ever gets in will be year 8-10 if ever.

    This has been fun because I too am always frustrated with this.

    So again the top 4 players in the opening sentence will be the only 4 that get in.

    Also, Padre fan here, Hoffman not getting in was a joke. but that does give Edgar hope because like Hoffman Best at the new type of player/trade



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    I'm not trying to start an argument, how do you feel about David Ortiz? many consider him a first ballot HOF.. Yes I'm an edgar fan but he has more games played on defense by over double.. while this.graphic only shows the stats while playing defense Ortiz only wins out in homers and slugging percentage.

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    I just don't get how Andruw Jones is that low. He is an all-time top 10 center fielder, and the greatest defensively by a pretty large margin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AUTaxMan View Post
    I just don't get how Andruw Jones is that low. He is an all-time top 10 center fielder, and the greatest defensively by a pretty large margin.
    I don't understand it either. 400+ HRs, 1200+ Runs, 1200+ RBIs and the best defensive centerfielder of all time by a huge margin. He's the 8th best defensive player of all time regardless of position.

    Of course I didn't understand how Edmonds was on so few ballots either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WizardofOz1982 View Post
    I don't understand it either. 400+ HRs, 1200+ Runs, 1200+ RBIs and the best defensive centerfielder of all time by a huge margin. He's the 8th best defensive player of all time regardless of position.

    Of course I didn't understand how Edmonds was on so few ballots either.
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