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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffv96masters View Post
    To date in nearly 20 years of grading at BGS the first and ONLY Pristine 10
    for 1997 Bowman Chrome International Refractors . Not sure on the other insert sets
    I just checked the International Refractor pop report looks like this is a Pop 1 Pristine.




    This is a Pop1 Clemens the others are BGS 9's

    Both of these sets have major centering issues front and back, good job finding well centered copies!

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    This popped up on the FCB search which i like got some good cards, but..,,,

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/172982618555?rmvSB=true

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    Quote Originally Posted by joey12508 View Post
    This popped up on the FCB search which i like got some good cards, but..,,,

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/172982618555?rmvSB=true
    outrageousness


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    Recurring Theme: 1998 Bowman Chrome Golden Anniversary Refractor real or fake game!

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/2008-Bowman...5/372132702991

    I don't like the '/' so I am leaning fake...

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    Quote Originally Posted by chippercards.com View Post
    Recurring Theme: 1998 Bowman Chrome Golden Anniversary Refractor real or fake game!

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/2008-Bowman...5/372132702991

    I don't like the '/' so I am leaning fake...
    Same seller/consignor if previous questioned ones. It sucks it happened to these.



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    I know, same seller and all - I arb the TNT auctions. Usually some nice deals in there and very reasonable combined S&H. The reason I asked is that he does such a massive volume of cards - literally thousands of no reserve auctions every week - I would not be surprised to see real ones come through his hands too. The one real 1998 Bowman Chrome Gold Ann Refractor card that I own, I bought from him in Dec 2016, prior to these fakes coming onto the market. I guess part of me just hopes against hope that there are still real ones coming online vs. these obnoxious fakes. Hopefully PSA/BGS will know a fake serial stamp when they see one.


    371809811796 1997 Score Stand And Deliver Gold #2 Greg Maddux
    1 US $8.01 US $8.01
    371809813096 1998 Bowman Chrome Gold #141 J J Davis Rookie RC 12/50
    1 US $0.99 US $0.99
    371809813131 1998 Bowman Chrome Gold Refractor #89 Juan Melo Rookie RC 5/5 1/1
    1 US $7.50 US $7.50

    [QUOTE=RStadlerASU22;2482499]Same seller/consignor if previous questioned ones. It sucks it happened to these.

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    [QUOTE=chippercards.com;2482504]I know, same seller and all - I arb the TNT auctions. Usually some nice deals in there and very reasonable combined S&H. The reason I asked is that he does such a massive volume of cards - literally thousands of no reserve auctions every week - I would not be surprised to see real ones come through his hands too. The one real 1998 Bowman Chrome Gold Ann Refractor card that I own, I bought from him in Dec 2016, prior to these fakes coming onto the market. I guess part of me just hopes against hope that there are still real ones coming online vs. these obnoxious fakes. Hopefully PSA/BGS will know a fake serial stamp when they see one.


    371809811796 1997 Score Stand And Deliver Gold #2 Greg Maddux
    1 US $8.01 US $8.01
    371809813096 1998 Bowman Chrome Gold #141 J J Davis Rookie RC 12/50
    1 US $0.99 US $0.99
    371809813131 1998 Bowman Chrome Gold Refractor #89 Juan Melo Rookie RC 5/5 1/1
    1 US $7.50 US $7.50

    Quote Originally Posted by RStadlerASU22 View Post
    Same seller/consignor if previous questioned ones. It sucks it happened to these.
    Where are all these fakes coming from exactly? For instance, why fake a card that's only going to sell for $8.50? What am I missing haha?

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    I think that if they were not regarded as fakes, some of the player collector favorites even of minor stars could fetch 50-250+. Best guess. Leximo2 was the seller of the cut sheet cards on a lot of these, but he didn't do anything wrong. Whoever the buyer was decided to alter them. I guess in re alteration it comes down to how much you are willing to sell out your integrity for. With some people the price is startlingly low.

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    As someone whose carved out a little PC of these cards it's definitely frustrating. Not just for finding new additions but now also having to deal with validation upon potential future re-sale. I'm just happy I picked up a dozen or so of the NNO copies of semistars and up when leximo dropped his prices...at least kept those ones from being altered. Re: encapsulation, I'm pretty sure BGS stabbed a phony Schilling, so...

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    I haven't looked, but if someone know quickly, are the questionable ones all the same #?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chippercards.com View Post
    Recurring Theme: 1998 Bowman Chrome Golden Anniversary Refractor real or fake game!

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/2008-Bowman...5/372132702991

    I don't like the '/' so I am leaning fake...
    Crap - I hope not. I'll get a better scan of it once I get it in. You guys can tell me, as I don't have a good point of reference since I've never come across a copy before. Guess it will be a $15 placeholder if it isn't legit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chippercards.com View Post
    Recurring Theme: 1998 Bowman Chrome Golden Anniversary Refractor real or fake game!

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/2008-Bowman...5/372132702991

    I don't like the '/' so I am leaning fake...
    Must be nice to sell cards on consignment, that way you can just play dumb and say "wasn't me!" when you sell a absolute metric ****ton of fake stuff.
    I'm DelBacon on Sportlots, tons of great cards!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nosterbor View Post
    A nice card for sure, I think it's priced about $10 too high though.

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    Where do people come up with prices like this LMBO?! Amazing card but this has to be a joke!

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