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    It looks so similar to the base card for this particular card that I see why I've had such a hard time finding one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Therion View Post
    It looks so similar to the base card for this particular card that I see why I've had such a hard time finding one.
    yep i be a lot are thrown away, i have 98 and 99 dont remember off the top of my head which one was numberd/150

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    Quote Originally Posted by joey12508 View Post
    yep i be a lot are thrown away, i have 98 and 99 dont remember off the top of my head which one was numberd/150
    The first day issues were the worst! Regular card with a little bit of gold foil on them. Tough to spot if you aren't looking for them. At least the One Of A Kind had a foily card stock, making it stand out a little.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksoncoupage View Post
    Just my two cents on this.

    I think there are two explanations for these and the EX cards from 1998-1999. One type is very clear to me that it is the result of smoke. These usually are shades lighter in yellowing and have area that are deeper in hue than others, ie the edges. Sometimes I’ve found them with clear rectangles indicating that they were in sleeves with price tags but exposed to sun.

    The other situation seems to be that fleer/skybox used two different types of plastic for these. One of which turns a solid gold/vibrant yellow color over time, regardless of sun exposure. These are very different from the tinted ones when examined in person. These have no difference in color on the photos and other non acetate areas of the card that would be the result of sun exposure and again, the gold color is flush throughout. I choose to consider these a variation in stock (like Topps UV or vanilla bean vs. cardboard) when I’ve added them to my collection or sold them.
    Could have sworn a couple tried the sun trick I left a common in the window a few years back for almost a year and it didn't change if it was smoke that colored it wouldn't be even color and would have a smell to it. I think it could have been some type of test and if it was not you would have seen a lot more than one or 2 of each player. I will get a common next time I go to my storage unit and leave it in the car to try again and see of its a difference. I think sun would deform it either making it rounded or wavy I didn't see that on mine.

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    The sun isn't the issue really, it's the harmful potential of UV light from any source; incandescent or halogen display lights produce the same UV waves the sun produces. That said, many plastics deteriorate independently over time, some are less likely, and some react or react more readily with a catalyst like acidic PVC byproducts or sunlight.

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    The acetate card doesn't require sunlight either- standard room lighting will also cause damages. As will changes in temperature, contact with the sleeves they reside in, and half a dozen other reasons. Long story short the acetate reacts quite easily with a variety of things. The best way to store those is museum quality non reactive paper holders and limited amount of time out in any type of lighting. Think I've taken mine out maybe once a year during inventory and put them right back under covers. Also I'd suggest using something to control humidity if your in a humid environment.

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    The 99 EX gold acetate mystery has not been solved but it seems that anyone who still supports the "sun turns the card a beautiful and completely even gold coloration" without providing new evidence, has, ahem, been out in the sun too long!

    I posted this in here in 2016, but since the images are likely lost to Photobucket...

    Here is a regular 99 EX Manny Ramirez:


    Here is that card after being left out in the sun for 6 straight weeks, enough to almost entirely degrade the blue sharpie:


    Here is a gold one:
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    The main course of Pinnacle Bankruptcy cards have finally hit eBay


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    I’m a little confused by the Purple Set PWCC listing. Sandberg is pictured in the set as a “season” card but I believe that was pack issued.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael.petkus View Post
    I’m a little confused by the Purple Set PWCC listing. Sandberg is pictured in the set as a “season” card but I believe that was pack issued.


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    I was wondering the same thing with the Ripken.

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    There was a green set listed but then taken down....?
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    I think we're getting too hung up on the "sun." Some plastics turn yellow in the sun, some don't. Some turn yellow with other catalysts. Some don't. Some are structurally unstable and turn yellow on their own; that's likely the case with cards like the Ultra Diamond Producers as well as many '99 eX examples. Plastics aren't perfect, one of the most finicky materials to manufacture with; not all cards produced are likely to have the exact chemical composition. However, the sheer fact that eX-es have been found with yellowing everywhere but where the overlaying sticker price tag blocked UV light suggests at least some of these cards are affected by the sun. This debate really baffles me; these "gold" cards are atrocious. The printed logos are even yellow. No quality department would ever produce something like that, proof or otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ripkenfan126 View Post
    I was wondering the same thing with the Ripken.
    Juan Gonzalez "Season" card was also pack issued..

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    1998 epix baseball Cards Cards marked with a "C" were scheduled for insertion into packs of 1998 Pinnacle Certified, but were never released



    Play

    E7 Frank Thomas C

    E8 Derek Jeter C

    E9 Tony Gwynn C

    E10 Albert Belle C

    E11 Scott Rolen C



    Game

    E13 Alex Rodriguez C

    E14 Cal Ripken, Jr. C

    E15 Chipper Jones C

    E16 Roger Clemens C

    E17 Mo Vaughn C

    E18 Mark McGwire C



    Season

    E19 Mike Piazza C

    E20 Andruw Jones C

    E21 Greg Maddux C

    E22 Barry Bonds C

    E23 Paul Molitor C

    E24 Eddie Murray C



    Moment



    E1 Ken Griffey, Jr. C

    E2 Juan Gonzalez C

    E3 Jeff Bagwell C

    E4 Ivan Rodriguez C

    E5 Nomar Garciaparra C

    E6 Ryne Sandberg C
    Let the MLB know you’d like to see UD back. The license comes up in a couple years and they listen on social media.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael.petkus View Post
    I’m a little confused by the Purple Set PWCC listing. Sandberg is pictured in the set as a “season” card but I believe that was pack issued.


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    Same for the McGwire (Epix Play). Pack issued. Same for all three sets they are selling.
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