Terrible "buyback" fake

oriolesfan0721 · Jul 28, 2011

I think I have seen this seller on the boards before with some very poorly done fakes.
This one really looks bad to me...

Am I thinking of the right guy?

http://cgi.ebay.com/2007-Bowmans-Best-B ... 43a8a7a983

72skywalker · Jul 28, 2011

What happens if you type that number on the sticker on a Topps website. does it tell you which card it goes to?

csmtampa · Jul 28, 2011

72skywalker said:
What happens if you type that number on the sticker on a Topps website. does it tell you which card it goes to?

No

jcmint · Jul 28, 2011

same guy who sold this

http://cgi.ebay.com/2009-UD-Ultimate-Ju ... 641wt_1344

which used to be this

MartinFFcollector · Jul 28, 2011

http://www.sportscardforum.com/showthre ... p=10072402

Post 4 & 5 has video of him being a scammer. I cannot watch at work so I'm unsure what's on there.

boomo · Jul 28, 2011

i guess until someone gets convicted of forgery they arent truly a scammer, just being creative.
I mean people buy cars a certain way and then add stuff and make them into hotrods.
people modify all sorts of things, what actually makes this different?

UMich92 · Jul 28, 2011

boomo said:
i guess until someone gets convicted of forgery they arent truly a scammer, just being creative.
I mean people buy cars a certain way and then add stuff and make them into hotrods.
people modify all sorts of things, what actually makes this different?

He didn't tell anyone he "modified" this card. If you bought a car that had been modified but didn't know it and the seller didn't indicate it was modified, wouldn't there be an issue?

George_Calfas · Jul 28, 2011

Many of his fake auction are "Private Listings"

seitas · Jul 28, 2011

boomo said:
i guess until someone gets convicted of forgery they arent truly a scammer, just being creative.
I mean people buy cars a certain way and then add stuff and make them into hotrods.
people modify all sorts of things, what actually makes this different?

Terrible analogy. He is altering a card that has been certified as authentic with a fake jersey patch. This would be like buying a Mercedes online and then when you receive it the seller has pulled out the engine and replaced it with a Kia engine. I'd certainly want my money back.

boomo · Jul 28, 2011

seitas said:
boomo said:

i guess until someone gets convicted of forgery they arent truly a scammer, just being creative.
I mean people buy cars a certain way and then add stuff and make them into hotrods.
people modify all sorts of things, what actually makes this different?

Click to expand...

Terrible analogy. He is altering a card that has been certified as authentic with a fake jersey patch. This would be like buying a Mercedes online and then when you receive it the seller has pulled out the engine and replaced it with a Kia engine. I'd certainly want my money back.

point taken.
still, nice work , lol

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