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It's quiet possible we'll have both a pitcher who finishes top 3 in Cy Young & a position player who finishes top 3 in MVP. I think it's rather obvious I'm referring to Paul Goldschmidt & Zack Greinke.
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death2redemptions
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Goldschmidt .320 avg 22 HR 78 RBI 1.017 OPS 15 SB 5.0 WAR
Greinke 13-4 2.84 ERA 3.21 FIP 1.00 WHIP 149 K/27 BB 4.5 WAR
Goldy leads all NL position players in WAR while Greinke has the 3rd highest WAR among NL pitchers.
Greinke 13-4 2.84 ERA 3.21 FIP 1.00 WHIP 149 K/27 BB 4.5 WAR
Goldy leads all NL position players in WAR while Greinke has the 3rd highest WAR among NL pitchers.
RStadlerASU22
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It would be nice to see Grienke get to 20 wins and get the Era down to 2.50ish. Goldy is just being Goldy. After that blah start he's been very good. I really hope this year doesn't go to waste.
Ryan
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death2redemptions
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You gotta be kidding me. D-Backs were up 6-1. Then the sixth inning happened and now it's a 6-5 score with no outs. 
This may be Greinke's worst game of the season.
On the bright side, Paul Goldschmidt absolutely killed a couple of balls deep into the stands, in fact one of them literally left the ballpark. He's 2-for-3 with 2 HR & 5 RBI so far. Responsible for nearly all the D-Backs runs.
Goldy - .318 avg 24 HR 84 RBI 1.019 OPS 15 SB
This may be Greinke's worst game of the season.
On the bright side, Paul Goldschmidt absolutely killed a couple of balls deep into the stands, in fact one of them literally left the ballpark. He's 2-for-3 with 2 HR & 5 RBI so far. Responsible for nearly all the D-Backs runs.
Goldy - .318 avg 24 HR 84 RBI 1.019 OPS 15 SB
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Greinke immediately strikes out the side following my comment. The anti-jinx wins every time.
6 IP, 5 ER, 8 H, 0 BB, 8 K
Still displaying good K/9, BB/9 & BB/K numbers, despite the 2 HR & 5 runs given up.
6 IP, 5 ER, 8 H, 0 BB, 8 K
Still displaying good K/9, BB/9 & BB/K numbers, despite the 2 HR & 5 runs given up.
death2redemptions
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Holy smokes, Goldy hit 3 home runs & drove in 6 runsI!!!
He's pretty much the reason why we were able to pull off this win tonight.
He's pretty much the reason why we were able to pull off this win tonight.
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Just a few random cards in my PC to commemorate this Goldy win
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In honor of this memorable night I'm going to lay some cash down for the next Dynasty auto or on-card autograph patch card that I find suitable (and cost efficient ) for my PC
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Them boyz be wild
death2redemptions
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Paul Goldschmidt is having an MVP season to this point
.320/.440/.591 25 HR 85 RBI 1.030 OPS 15 SB 5.2 WAR
His NL ranks (traditional + advanced)
5.2 bWAR - 1st
105 RC - 1st
.795 OWP - 1st
5.1 fWAR - 2nd
85 RBI - 2nd
86 Runs - 2nd
1.030 OPS - 2nd
.440 OBP - 2nd
75 Walks - 2nd
.427 wOBA - 2nd
159 wRC+ 3rd
157 OPS+ 3rd
15 SB - 4th
.591 slg% - 5th
225 Total Bases - 6th
.320 avg - 7th
25 HR - 7th
51 XBH - 7th
122 Hits - 8th
.270 ISO - 9th
There isn't a stat out there in which he isn't top 10. He's the complete package.
.320/.440/.591 25 HR 85 RBI 1.030 OPS 15 SB 5.2 WAR
His NL ranks (traditional + advanced)
5.2 bWAR - 1st
105 RC - 1st
.795 OWP - 1st
5.1 fWAR - 2nd
85 RBI - 2nd
86 Runs - 2nd
1.030 OPS - 2nd
.440 OBP - 2nd
75 Walks - 2nd
.427 wOBA - 2nd
159 wRC+ 3rd
157 OPS+ 3rd
15 SB - 4th
.591 slg% - 5th
225 Total Bases - 6th
.320 avg - 7th
25 HR - 7th
51 XBH - 7th
122 Hits - 8th
.270 ISO - 9th
There isn't a stat out there in which he isn't top 10. He's the complete package.
bstanwood
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The D-Backs have a lot of talent but he is putting more valuableness...valuability...he is more valuable than any other MVP candidate for my money. Maybe he isn't the most outstanding but after all it's the MVP not the MOP.
death2redemptions
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Last night was another victory which can pretty much be attributed to Paul Goldschmidt, at least offensively (Banda deserves much of the credit too). He went 3-for-4 with a triple, driving in the only 2 runs of the game. Two of his hits could have been home runs in many ballparks (certainly Wrigley Field).
His stats as of now: .325/.443/.597 25 HR 87 RBI 1.040 OPS 15 SB 5.5 WAR
2017 League Ranks:
• 1st in NL in OPS (1.040)
• 1st in NL in OBP (.443)
• 1st in NL in WAR (5.5)
• 2nd in NL in RBI (87)
• 2nd in NL in R (86)
• 2nd in NL in BB (75)
• 2nd in NL in wRC+ (161)
• 4th in NL in SB (15)
• 6th in NL in SLG (.597)
• 6th in NL in BA (.325)
• 7th in NL in HR (25)
Goldschmidt is good at baseball
His stats as of now: .325/.443/.597 25 HR 87 RBI 1.040 OPS 15 SB 5.5 WAR
2017 League Ranks:
• 1st in NL in OPS (1.040)
• 1st in NL in OBP (.443)
• 1st in NL in WAR (5.5)
• 2nd in NL in RBI (87)
• 2nd in NL in R (86)
• 2nd in NL in BB (75)
• 2nd in NL in wRC+ (161)
• 4th in NL in SB (15)
• 6th in NL in SLG (.597)
• 6th in NL in BA (.325)
• 7th in NL in HR (25)
Goldschmidt is good at baseball
bstanwood
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Let's play my favorite game the "what if" game. What if all the top tier players keep their current stat pace and the teams in the NL that are in line for a playoff spot make it, who do you think wins the MVP...not who do you want or who you think should but who do you think wins the award?
death2redemptions
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I believe it would come down to Goldschmidt or Harper.
Arenado, Blackmon & Seager would also be among my top 5 finalists.
It's really tough to answer your question for the following reason: Both the traditional stats & advanced metrics between Goldy & Harper are nearly identical. The main difference is that Harper has a higher HR total while Goldy has more stolen bases & slightly superior defense (based on metrics that deduct or add a premium based on positions in order to compare) and because I'm biased I know I'm going to lean Goldschmidt's way (he's one of my two favorite players & plays for one of the two teams I cheer for). I feel most would answer with Harper because he's a young superstar on a large market team who is very often in the spotlight.
But again, I also feel a case could be made for Arenado, Blackmon & Seager.
RStadlerASU22
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I really hope we pull off a playoff birth. Such a crappy year last year, I'll take this to get over it. Also wish I pulled my wallet out if my ass multiple times the last 5 years on Goldy.
Ryan
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scotty216brs
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I'd think Harper is definitely still in the mix, but Goldy is probably the frontrunner....been en fuego the past couple weeks.Last night was another victory which can pretty much be attributed to Paul Goldschmidt, at least offensively (Banda deserves much of the credit too). He went 3-for-4 with a triple, driving in the only 2 runs of the game. Two of his hits could have been home runs in many ballparks (certainly Wrigley Field).
His stats as of now: .325/.443/.597 25 HR 87 RBI 1.040 OPS 15 SB 5.5 WAR
2017 League Ranks:
• 1st in NL in OPS (1.040)
• 1st in NL in OBP (.443)
• 1st in NL in WAR (5.5)
• 2nd in NL in RBI (87)
• 2nd in NL in R (86)
• 2nd in NL in BB (75)
• 2nd in NL in wRC+ (161)
• 4th in NL in SB (15)
• 6th in NL in SLG (.597)
• 6th in NL in BA (.325)
• 7th in NL in HR (25)
Goldschmidt is good at baseball
I could watch this all day. Awesome.
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RBI double for Goldy to start the game...89th RBI of the season.
I love seeing all the crazy antics from these kids while waiting for the rain to pass. A happy team is a happy contender.
I love seeing all the crazy antics from these kids while waiting for the rain to pass. A happy team is a happy contender.
