The Super Sweet Early 00's Thread

Can anyone show off some 2000 Finest Gold Refractors. I have never seen a Larkin and would like to see what they look like. They were extremely tough odds if I remember correctly.

katieneack said:

Can anyone show off some 2000 Finest Gold Refractors. I have never seen a Larkin and would like to see what they look like. They were extremely tough odds if I remember correctly.

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Those are awesome!! Thanks for showing it off

Brewer Andy said:

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They are awesome and I think because they oddly were not serial numbered like the 99s were, I think they were greatly overlooked. I have no idea how many exist of each, but I bet someone has figured it out at some point in time based on production. If you consider that they were seeded only 1:240 packs, and there are 287 cards in the set, those are some tough pulls.

Here is my Rusty:



And here's the card I alluded to awhile back. While the Brady went for $50, this card went for $1. Although shipping from Singapore was $5. The seller claimed that the print run was 50. Coincidentally, I just got back from the post office with this:

Passing Thru Time mailday! All from COMC except the Biggio:

1994s - all blues /100









1995s - /75 are silvers, and /25 are golds. I was disappointed that the gold doesn't have the serial number stamped in gold foil. I'm weird like that. The Biggio is allegedly his jersey #, but I love the action photo

and some random...

These Topps Stars Metallic Blues are really nice looking, but most of the cards are wrecked by a giant shadow cast by each player:



97s will always be the best, but I thought these were pretty cool and much better than the 2003 and 2005 versions



I just thought this was cool. Not even sure what it's called exactly:



And here's my guy - Buhner Fan Favorites Refractor /299

^ Yes, #7 is Biggios jersey number... Nice haul.

ASTROBURN said:

^ Yes, #7 is Biggios jersey number... Nice haul.

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Word!


And ya had me scared for a minute...you started saying 1995 and #'d/75 and #'d/50. I was racking my brain trying to figure out what in the hell came out in 95 that was that low numbered....

GOD ppl r dum http://www.ebay.com/itm/2000-Upper-...257?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27c71772d9

Been eyeing these on COMC for a long time, made $10 on a flip and decided to grab them. 2005 Topps Rookie Cup Chrome /25:

RustyGreerFan said:

GOD ppl r dum http://www.ebay.com/itm/2000-Upper-Deck-A-Piece-Of-The-World-Series-/170843927257?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27c71772d9

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Wowzers! Go-go-gadget-steal!

Some examples of 2000 finest gold Features, Counterparts, and Gems

katieneack said:

Can anyone show off some 2000 Finest Gold Refractors. I have never seen a Larkin and would like to see what they look like. They were extremely tough odds if I remember correctly.

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I posted a thread on 2000 Finest Gold odds sometime earlier in the year but it was around when there was a glitch and a bunch of posts got deleted--anyways, i did a search on my thread and can't locate it. But here are my estimates, based on Beckett info. Note two caveats:

Beckett cites 287 cards (179 base, 40 rookie, 15 Features, 10 Counterparts, and 20 Gems), which leaves 23 cards unaccounted for. For my estimates below I assumed 202 base (179+23 missing cards).

Also, I used the odds for hobby/retail and not HTA (since I don't know the split)

Rookie cards: 40 total, each serial #d to 100, so there are 4,000 total rookie cards
Odds: 1:240 packs
Total packs: 960,000 (240 x 4,000)

Veteran odds: 1:240 packs
Estimated number of cards: 4,000 total cards, ~202 different veterans so ~20 cards of each

Features odds: 1:960 packs
Estimated number of cards: 1,000 total cards, ~15 different Features cards, so ~67 cards of each

Counterparts odds: 1:960 packs
Estimated number of cards: 1,000 total cards, ~10 different Counterpart cards, so ~67 cards of each

GEMS odds: 1,2880 packs
Estimated number of cards: 333 total cards, ~20 different Gems cards, so ~16 cards of each

I wouldn't be surprised if some of my math is wrong--but happy for others to pressure test these estimates.

oh, and I'm still looking for the Piazza #226 and Pedro #150, #267 and #277

RustyGreerFan said:

They are awesome and I think because they oddly were not serial numbered like the 99s were, I think they were greatly overlooked. I have no idea how many exist of each, but I bet someone has figured it out at some point in time based on production. If you consider that they were seeded only 1:240 packs, and there are 287 cards in the set, those are some tough pulls.

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magicpapa said:

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Took me forever to find this one...

RustyGreerFan said:

GOD ppl r dum http://www.ebay.com/itm/2000-Upper-Deck-A-Piece-Of-The-World-Series-/170843927257?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27c71772d9

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LOL! My question is, how did someone stumble upon this?! I am checking eBay enough already and don't have time to check for Albert Belle and the like to be listed in the description lol.

gradedeflator said:

I posted a thread on 2000 Finest Gold odds sometime earlier in the year but it was around when there was a glitch and a bunch of posts got deleted--anyways, i did a search on my thread and can't locate it. But here are my estimates, based on Beckett info. Note two caveats:

Beckett cites 287 cards (179 base, 40 rookie, 15 Features, 10 Counterparts, and 20 Gems), which leaves 23 cards unaccounted for. For my estimates below I assumed 202 base (179+23 missing cards).

Also, I used the odds for hobby/retail and not HTA (since I don't know the split)

Rookie cards: 40 total, each serial #d to 100, so there are 4,000 total rookie cards
Odds: 1:240 packs
Total packs: 960,000 (240 x 4,000)

Veteran odds: 1:240 packs
Estimated number of cards: 4,000 total cards, ~202 different veterans so ~20 cards of each

Features odds: 1:960 packs
Estimated number of cards: 1,000 total cards, ~15 different Features cards, so ~67 cards of each

Counterparts odds: 1:960 packs
Estimated number of cards: 1,000 total cards, ~10 different Counterpart cards, so ~67 cards of each

GEMS odds: 1,2880 packs
Estimated number of cards: 333 total cards, ~20 different Gems cards, so ~16 cards of each

I wouldn't be surprised if some of my math is wrong--but happy for others to pressure test these estimates.

oh, and I'm still looking for the Piazza #226 and Pedro #150, #267 and #277

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Where do you get your estimates?

AUTaxMan said:

Where do you get your estimates?

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He figured out the total pack production by using the rookie cards, which are serial numbered and have stated odds. Knowing these 2 variables, simple multiplication will tell you that there are a total of 960,000 packs produced. Then you just use the odds to determine the rest. Since the veterans are 1:240 packs, there are a total of 4,000 of them (960,000/240). You also know that there are 202 veteran cards from the checklist, 4,000 total cards, divided by 202 players, tells you there are roughly 20 of each card. Do the same math for the rest of the subsets with stated odds.

katieneack said:

He figured out the total pack production by using the rookie cards, which are serial numbered and have stated odds. Knowing these 2 variables, simple multiplication will tell you that there are a total of 960,000 packs produced. Then you just use the odds to determine the rest. Since the veterans are 1:240 packs, there are a total of 4,000 of them (960,000/240). You also know that there are 202 veteran cards from the checklist, 4,000 total cards, divided by 202 players, tells you there are roughly 20 of each card. Do the same math for the rest of the subsets with stated odds.

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Thanks. I overlooked that in his post.

Kyle hit the nail on the head with the explanation

would be good to get some anecdotal evidence from player collectors on whether these estimates "fit" with what they've seen...

AUTaxMan said:

Thanks. I overlooked that in his post.

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