2001 Fleer Stitches in Time and the ***** Leagues

homerun28aa said:

Has it ever been confirmed by Fleer or elsewhere that the Bell was indeed never made?
EDIT: Decided to look into it a little - Bell does exist though it's believed these were leaked purely on the secondary market and never inserted in the product itself.

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That's what they say, try and find a pic of one though.

gracecollector said:

That's what they say, try and find a pic of one though.

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Didn't search for too long but you're right, I was unable to find a picture. I wouldn't be surprised if there are only a couple out there, if any. If they are I bet they're in 10 cent insert boxes at shows

Congrats on the set, very nice!

homerun28aa said:

Didn't search for too long but you're right, I was unable to find a picture. I wouldn't be surprised if there are only a couple out there, if any. If they are I bet they're in 10 cent insert boxes at shows

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I think if they were out there, they were sold as a lot in a Fleer Auction, and the buyer knows what he has. This is how the Willie Mays unsigned auto cards entered the market. I can't find any info on the Bell though, and I've looked for years.

gracecollector said:

I think if they were out there, they were sold as a lot in a Fleer Auction, and the buyer knows what he has. This is how the Willie Mays unsigned auto cards entered the market. I can't find any info on the Bell though, and I've looked for years.

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True, I remember Fleer having a ton of vault auctions with all sorts of unreleased stuff and oddball inserts, plates, etc. This could have been in one of those; IMO it's a shame that this is really the only ***** league set of any value that I know of (I don't even know of any other Banks, Campanella, etc. cards that have them in a ***** league uni) and it isn't even fully complete.

Would you ever get the Mays signed IP if you had the opportunity? I personally think it would be cool if you could acquire two copies, keep one as is and get one signed IP if it was ever convenient.

homerun28aa said:

True, I remember Fleer having a ton of vault auctions with all sorts of unreleased stuff and oddball inserts, plates, etc. This could have been in one of those; IMO it's a shame that this is really the only ***** league set of any value that I know of (I don't even know of any other Banks, Campanella, etc. cards that have them in a ***** league uni) and it isn't even fully complete.

Would you ever get the Mays signed IP if you had the opportunity? I personally think it would be cool if you could acquire two copies, keep one as is and get one signed IP if it was ever convenient.

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Well, supposedly Mays won't sign anything of him in a ***** League uniform, so may not be possible. If you see this card autographed, chances are its forged.

But even if he would sign it, I have no desire to spend my money on a Mays auto. I've been at two different shows where he was signing, and he was NOT a nice person. Very dismissive of the people paying big bucks for his auto. Wouldn't look at them, didn't want to talk to them, etc. I was disappointed to see him like that, as I believe he was the greatest all-around player.

Plus, I'm a little weird in that I like to collect cards exactly as they were issued to by the card company. I prefer items unsigned if they were issued unsigned. I don't remove protective film or take cards out of sealed hard cases if they were issued with them. Just my way of collecting.