Leaf Manziel controversy

jimmyjam1973 · Mar 27, 2013

Love the "1st amendment" statement numerous times, but I'm going to use my 1st amendment right and say that I can't believe, as a company Leaf, would have touched something like this. Then you go on TV and pretty much say that you were capitalizing on the hype of Johnny Football, and this would probably be a one time kind of thing. You might not have paid him directly, but no way Manziel never collected $$ on those sigs. NCAA needs to step in and do something about this kid.

Manziel is become a giant *********, I hate saying that with the kid coming from just down the road from my hometown.

MansGame · Mar 27, 2013

Just read some articles on it online. Interesting to say the least. If Leaf did in fact acquire from a third party outside of Johnny Football and his family, etc. and the third party had NO idea what they were being used for, then I don't see how Leaf is in the wrong?

Again I'm not a lawyer but I would hope Leaf has documentation about here they got the autos, etc. If so, they're good.

I don't know though, again, I'm not a lawyer.

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200lbhockeyplayer · Mar 27, 2013

From Leaf's end, it's a non-issue if there is no paper trail to them. And there doesn't appear to be a shred of paper linking Manziel and Leaf.

As for the First Amendment rights, Leaf is working within the law and they really don't seem to be tiptoeing around it as they're a full stretch away from questionable.

Is it pushing the envelope? Absolutely. Innovative? Absolutely.

But seriously, in three years, is Manziel going to be anything more than a "former Heisman trophy winner?"

hoopster3977 · Mar 29, 2013

He's just another Eric Crouch or Jason White. 'Nuff said.

cgilmo · Mar 30, 2013

hoopster3977 said:
He's just another Eric Crouch or Jason White. 'Nuff said.

Hes short and does not have an elite arm

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nappyd · Mar 30, 2013

cgilmo said:
Hes short and does not have an elite arm

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Missing multiple knee and shoulder surgeries, plus not playing elite big ten defenses hurts his stock.

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jbhofmann · Mar 30, 2013

cgilmo said:
Hes short and does not have an elite arm

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MansGame · Mar 30, 2013

cgilmo · Mar 30, 2013

jbhofmann said:

Ahh the ryan howard defense

Good luck with that one.

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rum151man · Mar 30, 2013

nappyd said:
Missing multiple knee and shoulder surgeries, plus not playing elite big ten defenses hurts his stock.

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Ask Alabama about his stock

MansGame · Mar 30, 2013

rum151man said:
Ask Alabama about his stock

+1

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200lbhockeyplayer · Mar 30, 2013

To be fair, Wilson's arm strength is definitely above average.

But he is short.

MansGame · Mar 30, 2013

200lbhockeyplayer said:
To be fair, Wilson's arm strength is definitely above average.

But he is short.

I think that's fair

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jbhofmann · Mar 30, 2013

cgilmo said:
Ahh the ryan howard defense

Good luck with that one.

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What is that?

jbhofmann · Mar 30, 2013

Mel Kiper on Johnny Frickin' Football
ESPN?s Mel Kiper Jr.: ?(Johnny) Manziel isn?t just a product, he?s a prospect? | College Sports Blog
“I think Manziel has potential to be a first-round pick, and more than a Sumlin creation. This isn’t Case Keenum. In terms of the scouting profile, Manziel’s strengths are his accuracy and ball placement, pocket awareness and maneuverability and command of the system,” Kiper said.
“He’ll be dinged on height, but he’s no shorter than Drew Brees, who could be a good comparison at some point. Arm strength is average, but could certainly improve given his youth. Manziel isn’t just a product, he’s a prospect.”

cgilmo · Mar 31, 2013

jbhofmann said:
What is that?

Making the exception the rule.

Hallsgator · Apr 1, 2013

Bob Loblaw said:
The athletes get an education, room, board, training, handholding, conditioning, unlimited supplies of *****, and an audition to play for the NFL.

and yet that is a fraction of the billions that the NCAA makes off of them.

this is such and outdated argument. ncaa athletes deserve to be compensated fairly, and tuition is not fair anymore. especially for someone of Manziel's stature.

TramFan3 · Apr 1, 2013

Hallsgator said:
and yet that is a fraction of the billions that the NCAA makes off of them.

this is such and outdated argument. ncaa athletes deserve to be compensated fairly, and tuition is not fair anymore. especially for someone of Manziel's stature.

But dont most football programs pay for other sports? What loss does a program take on the scholarships for the girls underwater basketweaving team?

cgilmo · Apr 1, 2013

Hallsgator said:
and yet that is a fraction of the billions that the NCAA makes off of them.

this is such and outdated argument. ncaa athletes deserve to be compensated fairly, and tuition is not fair anymore. especially for someone of Manziel's stature.

Yeah because a&m had nothing to do with his success.

Bob Loblaw · Apr 1, 2013

Hallsgator said:
and yet that is a fraction of the billions that the NCAA makes off of them.

this is such and outdated argument. ncaa athletes deserve to be compensated fairly, and tuition is not fair anymore. especially for someone of Manziel's stature.

They get a free audition in front of the NFL. That's worth more than anything. The ability to be spotlighted and be drafted and earn millions and millions of dollars.

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