ESPN Reporting: Highly possible no one voted into the HOF this year

nosterbor · Jan 10, 2013

Pinbreaker said:
Ballots Cast: 569 Needed for Election: 427

VOTES
PLAYER
PERCENTAGE

388
Craig Biggio
68.20%

385
Jack Morris
67.70%

339
Jeff Bagwell
59.60%

329
Mike Piazza
57.80%

297
Tim Raines
52.20%

272
Lee Smith
47.80%

221
Curt Schilling
38.80%

214
Roger Clemens
37.60%

206
Barry Bonds
36.20%

204
Edgar Martinez
35.90%

191
Alan Trammell
33.60%

123
Larry Walker
21.60%

118
Fred McGriff
20.70%

106
Dale Murphy
18.60%

96
Mark McGwire
16.90%

75
Don Mattingly
13.20%

71
Sammy Sosa
12.50%

50
Rafael Palmeiro
8.80%

19
Bernie Williams
3.30%

18
Kenny Lofton
3.20%

16
Sandy Alomar Jr.
2.80%

6
Julio Franco
1.10%

5
David Wells
0.90%

4
Steve Finley
0.70%

2
Shawn Green
0.40%

1
Aaron Sele
0.20%

0
Jeff Cirillo
0.00%

0
Royce Clayton
0.00%

0
Jeff Conine
0.00%

0
Roberto Hernandez
0.00%

0
Ryan Klesko
0.00%

0
Jose Mesa
0.00%

0
Reggie Sanders
0.00%

0
Mike Stanton
0.00%

0
Todd Walker
0.00%

0
Rondell White
0.00%

0
Woody Williams
0.00%

*Candidates receiving less than 5% of the vote on
all ballots cast are removed from future BBWAA
consideration; Dale Murphy received 18.6% of the
vote in his 15th and final year of BBWAA eligibility.

1

Aaron Sele

0.20%
this just shows what a bunch of blow hard aholes are voting for the hall of shame.
WHAT MORON DID THIS!

nosterbor · Jan 10, 2013

MansGame said:
I will agree that Thomas will get in next year... everyone else... not sure

Seriously?
If Maddux does not get 97% of the vote all writers should be banned from voting

MansGame · Jan 10, 2013

nosterbor said:
Seriously?
If Maddux does not get 97% of the vote all writers should be banned from voting

I replied to this earlier in the post but my comment was in response to the one above where I posted... he said only 3 names of who he thought would get in, not including Maddux, and I said Thomas was the only one of the three he said that would get in...

I believe Maddux deserves it 100%

MansGame · Jan 10, 2013

Since we're on the topic and someone mentioned him earlier.... Can someone just give me the quick overview on Jim Rice and why he is in the HOF?

Honestly though... I see he had a crap load of triples and won the MVP one year? Just curous, not hating but just want to know.

sportscardtheory · Jan 10, 2013

MansGame said:
Since we're on the topic and someone mentioned him earlier.... Can someone just give me the quick overview on Jim Rice and why he is in the HOF?

Honestly though... I see he had a crap load of triples and won the MVP one year? Just curous, not hating but just want to know.

Because he was one of the premiere players in the league when he was active. He was an amazing player who is deserving of his HOF induction. He didn't have the longevity stats, but he was certainly one of the best ever while playing in a "dead ball" era.

MansGame · Jan 10, 2013

sportscardtheory said:
Because he was one of the premiere players in the league when he was active. He was an amazing player who is deserving of his HOF induction. He didn't have the longevity stats, but he was certainly one of the best ever while playing in a "dead ball" era.

This is kind of a b!tch'n reply but everything you said is qualitative --- anything quantitative to mention or literally he was just premiere, amazing, deserving and best ever (in a "dead ball" era)?

sportscardtheory · Jan 10, 2013

MansGame said:
This is kind of a b!tch'n reply but everything you said is qualitative --- anything quantitative to mention or literally he was just premiere, amazing, deserving and best ever (in a "dead ball" era)?

I said "one of the best ever". All you have to do is look at his baseballreference page Jim Rice Statistics and History - Baseball-Reference.com

He is over on three of the four Bill James HOF monitor tracker stats. He was a league MVP and was in top-5 MVP voting SIX times. He was an 8-time All-Star. He had nearly 1,500 RBI and hit close to .300 in his career while averaging 190 hits per-162 games played. He led the league in total bases 4 times. Led the league in homeruns 3 times. Led the league in RBI 2 times. Led the league in slugging percentage 2 times. Led the league in OPS once, triples once and hits once. The guy once led the league in triples and homeruns in the same season. He was an absolute beast of a player and never gets the credit he deserves.

MansGame · Jan 10, 2013

sportscardtheory said:
I said "one of the best ever". All you have to do is look at his baseballference page Jim Rice Statistics and History - Baseball-Reference.com

He is over on three of the four Bill James HOF monitor tracker stats. He was a league MVP and was in top-5 MVP voting SIX times. He was an 8-time All-Star. He had nearly 1,500 RBI and hit close to .300 in his career while averaging 190 hits per-162 games played. He led the league in total bases 4 times. Led the league in homeruns 3 times. Led the league in RBI 2 times. Led the league in slugging percentage 2 times. Led the league in OPS once, triples once and hits once. The guy once led the league in triples and homeruns in the same season. He was an absolute beast of a player and never gets the credit he deserves.

Cool, sounds good.

For a minute I thought you were explaining Albert Belle haha

morgoth · Jan 10, 2013

hive17 said:
No, you're wrong. I am not talking about who will or won't, based on anything. I'm simply saying that, without proof, you're being dishonest if you assume. There is nothing to have an opinion on with respect to "if" or "if not"; there can only be an opinion with respect to what PEDs mean to the game and its history.

Braun tested positive and got off on a technicality, there is proof.

morgoth · Jan 10, 2013

Also didn't baseball do a "baseline" test that had to have so many test positive before they implemented a further testing program? Didn't many players fail that test and the names of many who failed never got released? I wonder if and when that little bit of info gets released.

elmalo · Jan 10, 2013

nappyd said:
It'd like to see Barry bonds added, just so they can have an exhibit with his hat from when he started out with the pirates and then the larger one from when he played with the giants, showing how his skull grew as he used.

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I saw someone on tv, a reporter from San Francisco who said that the cubhouse guy told him that that was a complete fallacy.

MansGame · Jan 10, 2013

morgoth said:
Also didn't baseball do a "baseline" test that had to have so many test positive before they implemented a further testing program? Didn't many players fail that test and the names of many who failed never got released? I wonder if and when that little bit of info gets released.

Hmmm not familiar with this... Would be interested in learning more

elmalo · Jan 10, 2013

MansGame said:
Since we're on the topic and someone mentioned him earlier.... Can someone just give me the quick overview on Jim Rice and why he is in the HOF?

Honestly though... I see he had a crap load of triples and won the MVP one year? Just curous, not hating but just want to know.

Rice was one of the most feared hitters of his era. He is without a doubt a Hall of Famer.

MansGame · Jan 10, 2013

elmalo said:
Rice was one of the most feared hitters of his era. He is without a doubt a Hall of Famer.

If that gets you in the HOF, I couldn't agree more!

Signed,

Albert Belle

elmalo · Jan 10, 2013

MansGame said:
If that gets you in the HOF, I couldn't agree more!

Signed,

Albert Belle

Unfortunately the sportswriters can be little XXXXXes. Belle will never get in bc the sportswriters hate him. It took Rice forever bc the sportswriters didnt like him.

MansGame · Jan 10, 2013

elmalo said:
Unfortunately the sportswriters can be little XXXXXes. Belle will never get in bc the sportswriters hate him. It took Rice forever bc the sportswriters didnt like him.

Belle is well past his time on the ballot. His only chance is the veteran vote in or whatever that is lol... I give it 2% chance haha

hive17 · Jan 10, 2013

morgoth said:
Braun tested positive and got off on a technicality, there is proof.

You can't say that. Well, you can't say that and be correct; you have every right to say what you want, but as it stands, you would be guilty of slander if you do (but that's taking it a little too far). The "proof" was invalidated, so it doesn't exist. You can now, legally, only suspect that he used something. You cannot say he tested positive or that there is proof. The proof can't be definatively linked to him or even be considered accurate. Sorry, those are the facts.

For the record, I suspect he had something in his system as well.

uniquebaseballcards · Jan 10, 2013

elmalo said:
I saw someone on tv, a reporter from San Francisco who said that the cubhouse guy told him that that was a complete fallacy.

Mike Murphy, the San Francisco Giants’ clubhouse manager, testified Monday in the home-run champion’s perjury trial that Bonds’ cap size increased for the 2002 season. It went from 7 1/4 to 7 3/8, Murphy said. This, despite the fact Bonds had begun shaving his head.

MansGame · Jan 10, 2013

uniquebaseballcards said:
Mike Murphy, the San Francisco Giants’ clubhouse manager, testified Monday in the home-run champion’s perjury trial that Bonds’ cap size increased for the 2002 season. It went from 7 1/4 to 7 3/8, Murphy said. This, despite the fact Bonds had begun shaving his head.

This is hilarious... Next time you guys are walking around a mall, go to a Lids and see just how much of a jump this is in size... Not just like I wear a slightly larger size for sh!ts and giggles

elmalo · Jan 10, 2013

uniquebaseballcards said:
Mike Murphy, the San Francisco Giants’ clubhouse manager, testified Monday in the home-run champion’s perjury trial that Bonds’ cap size increased for the 2002 season. It went from 7 1/4 to 7 3/8, Murphy said. This, despite the fact Bonds had begun shaving his head.

Well, I didnt say wht the guy said was true or not, I was just pointing out that he mentioned it. And that jump is only one size difference. Not what the media is making it out to be.

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