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gracecollector
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Seaver vs. Gibson - Seaver was better as a pitcher.
Wins: 311 to 251
Win %: .601 to .591
Games: 656 to 528
ERA: .286 to .291
Strikeouts: 3640 to 3117
WHIP: 1.121 to 1.188
WAR: 106.3 to 81.9
Wins: 311 to 251
Win %: .601 to .591
Games: 656 to 528
ERA: .286 to .291
Strikeouts: 3640 to 3117
WHIP: 1.121 to 1.188
WAR: 106.3 to 81.9
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AnthonyCorona
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Yeah Seaver is way up on the time WAR list. If we went by just that I think it would be fair, of course Bonds and Arod are like 3 and 4, we can't have that right?
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AnthonyCorona
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Trout is still alive too 
gt2590
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No way to really measure it, but I'm pretty sure Koufax was overall better than either Gibson, Seaver or Randy Johnson though obviously alot less IP...
Topnotchsy
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Nothing Rose did calls into question his performance on the field while what Bonds did does. I'm not saying Rose was a better player than Bonds but when considering top players I think it's reasonable to have the opinion that anyone whose numbers are known to have been enhanced should not be considered.
My 4 are:
Mays
Aaron
And 2 of:
Pedro/Maddux/Johnson (3 guys who warrant comparisons with the best in any era)
I'd rather go position by position though since it's hard to compare.
Greg Cleveland
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Guess what this really means is that you can't limit this to just four. So what should it be? Five ? Six? Top ten?
Topnotchsy
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For me it's at least one at each position. Or minimally a few hitters and a few pitchers. It is hard to compare guys like Rickey with some of the names mentioned, and catchers IMO should be judged a bit differently. Either way you slice it though it makes for fun discussion.
Super Mario
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You can't 100% know his betting didn't affect his on-field play or managing.
Mark70Z
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Mays
Aaron
F. Robby
B. Robby
I think pitchers should be a separate grouping.
Aaron
F. Robby
B. Robby
I think pitchers should be a separate grouping.
Topnotchsy
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No but the concern there is he would have played better (if he had bet against his own team). With Bonds the concern is he would have played worse without steroids.
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SANDY KOUFAX 1963 All-Time greastest single season MVP Triple Crown CY
And MVP World Series too. That 1963 Topps is beloved by card collector.
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