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jacksoncoupage
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While interesting, these are generally considered print flaws due to foil application misstep. Very common in cards today and since the regular use of foil beginning in the early/mid 90's. As for 1989 UD, specifically, I have seen many, many examples of them.
1989 UD is probably the single most backdoored set of the junk era. There is so much printer's scrap circulating in the hobby today due it's tremendous popularity at release.
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Regarding the 1989 Upper Deck, I'm going to definitely look for the other blank hologram versions for my collection - I searched COMC and found only 1 in the 500+ I looked at that had no hologram. I'd say that while they may be plentiful, the # compared to the regular 1989 Upper Decks seem very, very small.
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What re your thoughts on these?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1989-TOPPS-...686?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2edde056fe
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1991-Topps-...727?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item460e70ea2f
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1988-Topps-...292?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4626969834
Does anyone have any info on them?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1989-TOPPS-...686?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2edde056fe
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1991-Topps-...727?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item460e70ea2f
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1988-Topps-...292?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4626969834
Does anyone have any info on them?
RStadlerASU22
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At $1-2 range maybe , not sure at those prices I'd think they are big enough variations IMO
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i'm not sold on the 1989 being a legitmiate variation....i see the seller notes three different sources recognizing it , but one beckett does NOT have it listed (though he uses beckett as a reference)...i think that one is nothing more than a faded or low-ink-level card...it sure does look to me like on the "dark green variation" that ALL the green (in fact ALL colors) are darker by the same degree compared to the "light green" version on which all the colors merely look faded or washed out....
i also have never seen that 1988 card cataloged as a variation , but i'm inclined to believe that it may be considered as such by some of the hard core guys (was surprised it isnt detailed on the junk wax gems blog post covering 88 topps)
the 1991 is definitely a known variation discussed on the junk wax gems blog (scroll down and read about card number 720 - cecil fielder ....that's the gray vs red or pink number variation he talks about which is much easier to see on the canseco scan than the fielder pictured on the blog)
https://junkwaxgems.wordpress.com/2...91-topps-baseball-the-40th-anniversary-issue/
DeliciousBacon
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What do you think we have here: a true variation, or just bad scans on COMC's part? These are all from different sellers, so it isn't just one person with all the shiny ones:
Has anybody ever seen the 1991 O-Pee-Chee white back variation as depicted in this sheet for sale?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-1991-O...687?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item419293892f
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-1991-O...687?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item419293892f
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Blast no canseco!
DeliciousBacon
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Looks like a print error to me. Probably scrap that was "rescued" from the trash.
RStadlerASU22
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Hey , I have 40 or so ZAxis /20 and as I looked at them , I found 4 w/o card numbers. Anyone know/remember if that was common to certain cards ?
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Ryan
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timtom
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A number of the cards from that set, as well as all the base fractal materials are missing numbers. Makes putting a set together really annoying
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Bought some cheap boxes to rip today and pulled this. i was lucky to even notice it, but the grey box caught my eye when i opened the pack. Sure enough, it was not right and the correct version has the black box. The rest of the back has a washed out look too, as there is a lack of black ink all around. No other cards in the box looked like this. For those of you with organized cards, see if you have this or others like it.
DaClyde
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Was anyone aware of these Lee Smith variations in the 1988 Topps Sticker Backs set?
http://borosny.blogspot.com/2015/03/great-cards-from-junior-junkie.html
Apparently there are three different versions of the stats. One includes G, W-L, SV and ERA columns, and the other two have W-L, SO, SHO and ERA colums with the numbers for W-L and SO swapped.
I'm going to start browsing through COMC to see if there are any other similar variations.
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Well, the main things that stand out at COMC are that the Topps and OPC cards are mixed together, and the COMC watermark is right on top of the stats, making them difficult to read.
http://borosny.blogspot.com/2015/03/great-cards-from-junior-junkie.html
Apparently there are three different versions of the stats. One includes G, W-L, SV and ERA columns, and the other two have W-L, SO, SHO and ERA colums with the numbers for W-L and SO swapped.
I'm going to start browsing through COMC to see if there are any other similar variations.
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Well, the main things that stand out at COMC are that the Topps and OPC cards are mixed together, and the COMC watermark is right on top of the stats, making them difficult to read.
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I actually found one of the 1987 Topps TBC Rickey henderson variations, yellow date on front. I listed it on ebay in case anyone is interested.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/231546723288?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
Also, any update on the sticker backs? Did you find any other players with differences?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/231546723288?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
Also, any update on the sticker backs? Did you find any other players with differences?
DaClyde
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I browsed through all the stickers I have, but didn't find any more variations. I only had two versions of the Lee Smith.
Yeah I browsed through mine and looked on COMC a little too and didn't see any. Good find.
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