MONSTER - Josh Johnson/Buehrle/Reyes to TOR For Alvarez/Escobar/Hechavarria/Nicolino/Marisnick

ccouch (Chad) · Nov 13, 2012

What is this for the Marlins -- the third massive "everything goes" fire sale in 15 years?

Hard to criticize a franchise that has two titles in 15 years (and based on my recollection, at the 2003 one was done largely with homegrown talent), but this kind of turnover is absurd. If a GM swings and misses that badly and then wants to bail after one year, I'd fire his ass so fast that his head would spin.

Did Reyes not have a no-trade clause?

EDIT -- To answer my own question, Reyes' deal did NOT have a no-trade clause. What kind of numbnut signs a long-term $100M deal without getting a no-trade clause?

scotty216brs · Nov 13, 2012

Jays had to do something though if they want to compete, and pitching I'm sure was their #1 priority this off-season.

Do the Jays even have a manager yet?

AmishDave · Nov 13, 2012

Hole. E. Christ.

scotty216brs · Nov 13, 2012

ccouch (Chad) said:
What is this for the Marlins -- the third massive "everything goes" fire sale in 15 years?

Hard to criticize a franchise that has two titles in 15 years (and based on my recollection, at the 2003 one was done largely with homegrown talent), but this kind of turnover is absurd. If a GM swings and misses that badly and then wants to bail after one year, I'd fire his ass so fast that his head would spin.

Did Reyes not have a no-trade clause?

Correct.

scotty216brs · Nov 13, 2012

55_marlins_sp said:
Hole. E. Christ.

Sucks, now the Sox have to face JJ several times a year! :lol:

gt2590 · Nov 13, 2012

Jaypers said:
Wow.

Exactly my reaction!

Man, is the AL East gonna be loaded...

Jaypers · Nov 13, 2012

Tweet of the day.

Giancarlo Stanton ‏@Giancarlo818
Alright, I'm pissed off!!! Plain & Simple

All The Hype · Nov 13, 2012

55_marlins_sp said:
Hole. E. Christ.

I'm curious as such a huge collector does this change how you feel about your guy?

HPC · Nov 13, 2012

Jaypers said:
Tweet of the day.

Giancarlo Stanton ‏@Giancarlo818
Alright, I'm pissed off!!! Plain & Simple

I would be too.

I wonder if he will ask for a trade now?

scotty216brs · Nov 13, 2012

Jaypers said:
Tweet of the day.

Giancarlo Stanton ‏@Giancarlo818
Alright, I'm pissed off!!! Plain & Simple

Nice.

I feel bad for him but there is not a lot he can do about it.

ccouch (Chad) · Nov 13, 2012

HPC said:
I would be too.

I wonder if he will ask for a trade now?

He could, but he has absolutely no leverage to ask for a trade. He's not even arbitration eligible.

The only leverage he has is not signing a long-term extension, but Miami still has unfettered control over him for four more years.

scotty216brs · Nov 13, 2012

All The Hype said:
I'm curious as such a huge collector does this change how you feel about your guy?

He's probably been expecting JJ to be traded over the last couple years with all of the rumors of it....he might not have expected him to end up in Canada, though. lol

Jaypers · Nov 13, 2012

Where's our own Ian Stewart (Alex) when you need him? I wonder if he's still alive after reading this.

Jaypers · Nov 13, 2012

Now this is funny.

Jon Morosi ‏@jonmorosi
#Marlins insist Grooms sculpture will not be traded for the Hard Rock Café at Rogers Centre. Sculpture is not convinced.

olerud363 · Nov 13, 2012

Re: Josh Johnson Headed to the Blue Jays?

aarne13 said:
And I thought that the Izturis signing was going to be the biggest deal for the Jays.....

Isn't the policy usually that if you heard about it, then it probably isn't happening? AA is annoyingly secretive. Still, it'd be really nice the see a big "holy crap!" deal from the Jays.

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hive17 · Nov 13, 2012

ccouch (Chad) said:
EDIT -- To answer my own question, Reyes' deal did NOT have a no-trade clause. What kind of numbnut signs a long-term $100M deal without getting a no-trade clause?

ESPECIALLY when you sign with Miami?

scotty216brs · Nov 13, 2012

JP when this trade is finalized can you give us a low-down on the prospects involved? That would be much appreciated for the FCBers not up to par on the MiLB market.

Jaypers · Nov 13, 2012

scotty216brs said:
JP when this trade is finalized can you give us a low-down on the prospects involved? That would be much appreciated for the FCBers not up to par on the MiLB market.

That's what I do.

James52411 · Nov 13, 2012

Great trade for the Jays. They immediately become a playoff contender.

As for the Marlins, their ownership group is probably the most dishonest, least likable front office in baseball. I understand making some moves, but blowing this team up is premature. Albert Pujols is definitely happy he didn't sign with the fish.

ljw29 · Nov 13, 2012

James52411 said:
Great trade for the Jays. They immediately become a playoff contender.

As for the Marlins, their ownership group is probably the most dishonest, least likable front office in baseball. I understand making some moves, but blowing this team up is premature. Albert Pujols is definitely happy he didn't sign with the fish.

If he had he would probably have been traded to the Royals

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