STL Cardinals offseason thread

craiger122003 · Nov 8, 2016

I hope we do not sign Fowler.
I do hope we trade for an elite outfielder.
We will HAVE to upgrade the defense.
Thanks for the memories Matt Holliday.
Jump in fellow Cardinal fans.

George_Calfas · Nov 8, 2016

My guess is we sign Cespedes
Trade a SP for a 1B

craiger122003 · Nov 9, 2016

We have no pitchers to trade. First look its Waino, Leake, Garcia. Maybe Lynn or Wacha if healthy.
Reyes or Weaver or possibly both. Too many questions to trade from that group. If any trade is made we need
to free up that logjam in the infield. Plenty of hitters little defense.

George_Calfas · Nov 9, 2016

craiger122003 said:
We have no pitchers to trade. First look its Waino, Leake, Garcia. Maybe Lynn or Wacha if healthy.
Reyes or Weaver or possibly both. Too many questions to trade from that group. If any trade is made we need
to free up that logjam in the infield. Plenty of hitters little defense.

You can you trade in the IF? Johnny is in his last year, Wong is the future 2B, Diaz is solid, and they have now committed to Carp at 1B.

Looks like signing or trading for an OFer is the task for this winter.

Super Mario · Nov 9, 2016

I hope we do sign Fowler.

Preferably overpay him just a little bit for a 4 year deal. He'll want more years than that from whoever signs him, so I say throw in some extra money so we can get him.

He can play any outfield position, and is a viable lead off hitter from both sides of the plate. Even if his defense starts to lack toward the end of the contract, I think his bat will maintain, and he can play a corner instead of center.

I don't like the idea of Cespedes. I have no confirmation, but I can't believe he's a great clubhouse guy, being as he can't stay on one freaking team for very long. I don't want that in the clubhouse, even if he can rake.

They're going to have to go out and get a left handed reliever to replace Duke.

Trade Jaime. I'm sick of him being on the DL all the time.

Good move by letting Moss walk. Too much money for a bench player. How many 'super untility guys' does the team need? Gyorko is sufficient.

George_Calfas · Nov 9, 2016

Sam, I dont disagree with any of your statements.......the money is there for Fowler.

Benson · Nov 9, 2016

They need to find an impact bat from somewhere in the lineup. I sure hope Oquendo is back in St. Louis next year, that man can teach infield defense. I thought they should have let Garcia go and use his $12M on something else.

George_Calfas · Nov 9, 2016

Benson said:
They need to find an impact bat from somewhere in the lineup. I sure hope Oquendo is back in St. Louis next year, that man can teach infield defense. I thought they should have let Garcia go and use his $12M on something else.

Injury aside, $12M for a lefty starter is a deal because they don't grow on trees.

craiger122003 · Nov 10, 2016

Well I am on board so far. But we need Jaime Garcia.
We only have Waino, Leake, MAYBE Lynn. They are all righties.
We need a lefty in the mix. Reyes and Weaver will fill out the rotation or long man duties.

Super Mario · Nov 10, 2016

Oquendo has already been replaced.

He is staying in Florida to work with the minor leaguers.

Super Mario · Nov 10, 2016

They promoted two coaches from the farm system to replace him.

http://m.cardinals.mlb.com/news/article/208069036/cardinals-finalize-coaching-staff-for-2017/

Super Mario · Nov 10, 2016

craiger122003 said:
Well I am on board so far. But we need Jaime Garcia.
We only have Waino, Leake, MAYBE Lynn. They are all righties.
We need a lefty in the mix. Reyes and Weaver will fill out the rotation or long man duties.

And who knows what we'll get out of Wacha.

George_Calfas · Nov 10, 2016

Super Mario said:
And who knows what we'll get out of Wacha.

.....and Waino

Super Mario · Nov 10, 2016

You guys should download the 101 ESPN Sports app.

I listen to the Bernie Miklasz show every morning when I get off work.

Kevin Wheeler has a show on after that as well. I am always asleep by the time it comes on though.

But I enjoy listening to Bernie. I know some people hate him, but I enjoy his snarkyness.

It's free too.

Jaypers · Nov 10, 2016

I think Alex Reyes plus three more minor league mid-tier prospects would be enough to get Chris Sale.

Probably Harrison Bader, Sandy Alcantara and Mags Sierra.

Super Mario · Nov 10, 2016

Jaypers said:
I think Alex Reyes plus three more minor league mid-tier prospects would be enough to get Chris Sale.

Probably Harrison Bader, Sandy Alcantara and Mags Sierra.

I would love Sale. That's the pipe dream for Cardinals fans right now.

But do you really think the Cardinals would part with Reyes for anyone?

Jaypers · Nov 10, 2016

Super Mario said:
I would love Sale. That's the pipe dream for Cardinals fans right now.

But do you really think the Cardinals would part with Reyes for anyone?

If they want him, they'll have to. He'll require a top tier prospect as the centerpiece.

Super Mario · Nov 19, 2016

Zack Duke's replacement has been found.

George_Calfas · Nov 19, 2016

Super Mario said:
Zack Duke's replacement has been found.

http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...ays-reliever-brett-cecil-agree-four-year-deal

craiger122003 · Nov 20, 2016

Expensive gamble. Relievers are making crazy money these days.
I hope it works out. If we can keep Reyes and get Sale I am for it.
Wacha and a couple prospects should do it I hope.

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