So HOW LOW are the Five Star boxes going to fall?

goldenegg1 · Nov 15, 2012

I don't understand the huge hard on for this product, I really don't.
I can't believe the condition of these cards in a pack of this price and I can't believe the astronomical number of redemptions (which I'm sure will never get fulfilled) in every pack.
If you look at the box breaks, rarely do you see a box opened without a redemption in it. I've seen boxes with 2-3 in a single pack! Like I said before, you have to be nuts to shell out some of the money that people are paying for these redemption cards. Can you imagine how long it is going to take them to get the Octo autographs done with guys like Kemp, Pujols, Halladay, etc? I would love to own some of the Dawson's from this set, but they look like my 3 year old took scissors to them. the ones that are in decent shape, guys want $100 for them because they aren't as crappy as the others. Unreal.

jcmint · Nov 15, 2012

way overpriced product. This will certainly drop when a few big hits are out and about

gmsieb · Nov 15, 2012

See 2011 topps five star football for the anwser.

notjomommasclint · Nov 15, 2012

This isn't produced for joe collector.. It's made for gambler guy.. The hit chaser.. The more bad boxes out there the better the odds of a monster box!

Bob Loblaw · Nov 15, 2012

...what's the direct cost?

Gilmore?

cgilmo · Nov 15, 2012

Bob Loblaw said:
...what's the direct cost?

Gilmore?

I am not allowed to say publicly.

hive17 · Nov 15, 2012

I will probably be able to get an Aoron auto finally thanks to this product. But that's because of the PRs. So it's a boon to singles buyers, and a money pit for box breakers.

bigalbert · Nov 15, 2012

For box breakers getting 10 cents on the dollar isn't that unusual. Every product put out has boxes like that. Quit making a mountain out of a molehill.

ThoseBackPages · Nov 15, 2012

it would be awesome if these boxes got down to $50

never happen though

cgilmo · Nov 15, 2012

ThoseBackPages said:
it would be awesome if these boxes got down to $50

never happen though

no, it wouldn't be awesome

lisu · Nov 15, 2012

gmsieb said:
See 2011 topps five star football for the anwser.

I lost a couple of g's on that product.

Bob Loblaw · Nov 15, 2012

cgilmo said:
I am not allowed to say publicly.

All of the secrecy and back room dealing is what helps the shadiness of this hobby.

cgilmo · Nov 15, 2012

Bob Loblaw said:
All of the secrecy and back room dealing is what helps the shadiness of this hobby.

Sigh

It's not shady that they do not want direct cost to be public knowledge. Frankly it's none of your damn business.

Bob Loblaw · Nov 15, 2012

Everything is my damn business. And while I am in obvious understanding of your entrenchment in it, both as a retailer and an owner of a message board that derives an income speaking about it, present company excluded, this is one of the shadier "hobbies" out there. This hobby could really use a governing body.

George_Calfas · Nov 15, 2012

I remember receiving a 30 day vacation from BMB for posting the direct cost of Sportskings.

Erich · Nov 15, 2012

bigalbert said:
For box breakers getting 10 cents on the dollar isn't that unusual. Every product put out has boxes like that. Quit making a mountain out of a molehill.

It is just a lot harder to stomach when spending 400-500 on this instead of 50-75 on a box of chrome.

I also believe 10% is a little low, I have not seen a 10% return box, 20-30% is a different story.

notjomommasclint · Nov 15, 2012

Not mentioning cost is shady?? My target doesn't tell me what my deodorant costs.. My gas station doesn't tell me what root beer costs.. Game stop doesn't tell me what nfs costs.. Its not now and never should be for public consumption. Look what hat knowledge did to the car business.

cgilmo · Nov 15, 2012

Bob Loblaw said:
Everything is my damn business. And while I am in obvious understanding of your entrenchment in it, both as a retailer and an owner of a message board that derives an income speaking about it, present company excluded, this is one of the shadier "hobbies" out there. This hobby could really use a governing body.

No, it really isn't any of your business.

In fact, it's not even close to being your business.

You don't get to know what businesses pay for their product unless you are on the inside of that business. Do you ask walmart how much they pay for the things you buy?

cgilmo · Nov 15, 2012

While you are at it, why not ask topps how much it cost them to make it?

You can't have 100% transparency. And btw, if you eliminate the hobby shops the industry would crumble. Interest would dive even lower.

masonphillip · Nov 15, 2012

Bob Loblaw said:
Everything is my damn business. And while I am in obvious understanding of your entrenchment in it, both as a retailer and an owner of a message board that derives an income speaking about it, present company excluded, this is one of the shadier "hobbies" out there. This hobby could really use a governing body.

Lolololol a governing body. That's hilarious

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