A_Pharis
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The Gehrig is numbered to 80???? Lol that changes things a bit
i can't recall one numbered that high like that
even /25 is a stretch
someone did a splendid job on that one.
The one with the chain stitching, yeah.
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The Gehrig is numbered to 80???? Lol that changes things a bit
i can't recall one numbered that high like that
even /25 is a stretch
someone did a splendid job on that one.
For the most part I agree with you, here was my predictions based on the fact that I found out this guy was a cosigner and not a collector:
Clemente Prime Cuts - likely genuine
Doerr Timeless Treasures + Doerr TOTT - likely genuine, they look like they're from the same jersey which would make sense both 2005
2008 Munson jumbos (3) - fake. to me this is clear as day I mean the third Munson nameplate is from the pants...it's not even a jersey nameplate I think there's a 1% these are legit because I've been able to find 2 others from that year that are plain jumbo jerseys
2014 Mantle ITG - genuine
Ott/Gehrig - genuine
2006 Triple Threads Mantles - 50/50 - I have seen these around A LONG time if they were faked it was awhile back - I'd maybe even say 70% genuine just because I'm not sure I can see someone taking apart a card with a Josh Gibson bat piece
Babe Ruth button hole - my best guess would be fake just by looking at it but I really can't tell
Robinson jumbo - fake. I have looked at the HOF jumbos from this year numbered /10 with guys of Robinsons caliber and have not found patches it's essentially all jumbo jerseys
Thorpe - genuine
Whitey Ford (3) - genuine
Gehrig lettering patch - fake. dozens of examples of Ruth's & Gehrig's from these years that are faked in a similar way. I believe that's the original jersey with the red stitching added on.
I'd be extremely surprised if the Jackie turned out to be authentic, I think it must have been faked very close to the release of this product. That one I'm going to continue digging on because it has me intrigued but with the Munson you have a pants nameplate mixed in there from what I can see, lol!
If I could afford the Jackie, I'd buy it, too.
Curious , what do you feel market should be around for the Jackie or Clemente?
And yes , I lean towards the Munson being a pant , making it more believable.
I spoke to a member through PM and we agree that the legit material to make these cards exists , so they have to be in some cards somewhere. It seems this seller has accumulated a few nice ones. I think his pricing shows that he at least feels the items are legit as well.
Ryan
1500 top dollar for clemente and 2500-3200 for robinson. The other robinson jumbo patch (Not this one) from same set sold for 2750 if I remember right. I was going after one. I have a image but have changed computers and may be lost. May have to bust the cob webs on it and see if its in there still, lol
You think that high on the Clemente? I doubt it breaks $1K at auction I mean there's a little stitching from the lettering but that's about all that's super unique. LOT of Clemente patches out there nowadays. If we could confirm that the Jackie was genuine and there was a consensus I agree on value as well. Yes, the patches look similar to the 1/1 you showed but that's a known example those 4 and 5 piece 1/1 patch relics are known to be genuine Topps did that for a bunch of the big name HOF players like you know.
Again, if all 10 Jackie's are patches then that makes sense but only one out of 10 of them coincidentally being a magnificent example? All of the other jumbos I've been able to look up from that 2009 jumbo relics set are plain jersey pieces again minus those 3 Munson's. If you have pictures of ones from that 2009 set that are patches I would absolutely love to see them.
I think this is just a well faked patch, you're not going to get away with putting the logo in a Jackie Robinson jumbo patch card. I think the proof would be examining closely in hand, at this point it's very hard to find something online to guide you in one way or the other but the fact that even the Dice-K jumbo relics #/10 isn't a patch makes me wonder why the Jackie's would be patches. Just isn't really adding up for me.
And again the final piece of it is the explanation from the seller that Topps confirmed they made 10 Robinson nameplates.
Again im confident the Jackie Is good.
As for the Clemente I agree with you and I should have clarified. On a good day its a 1000 dollar card or a little less. But I know of buyers that would pay 1000-1500. The Mirror Black 1/1 that was up with a single clemente patch sold for 1100 and coule have sold for 1200 but the second person did not hit the buy it now. This clemente imo is more unique and I feel would get 1500. I don't know if I would go that high myself as I wasn't willing to go 1200 for the mirror black patch but I do know of 2 people whom were willing to pay the 1100 to 1200 for that one and have said as much that they would fork over as much as 1500 for this one. Remember there are people on here or other boards that have bigger pockets than us, lol, and when it comes to unique cards they will pay a mint.
What do you guys think of this one and the market value ?
http://m.ebay.com/itm/231261630970?nav=SEARCH
Ryan
See the problem with this one is the patch is clearly much more modern than the Prime Cuts, for me at least that's a HUGE turnoff. To be honest, if the card you showed was a nice vintage, wool, grey jersey patch with the gold and black I go as high as $1,050 on it or maybe even consider hitting the BIN. The fact that it's a more modern jersey patch makes me say it would go for $600-$700.
I totally understand that philosophy , but with RC, you know it's not past 1972 , and wasn't a coaches or old timers type. Though a newer style , it's from his playing days.
Ryan
Here is another copy of the 2009 topps sterling Jackie robinson jumbo patch.