MONSTER - Josh Johnson/Buehrle/Reyes to TOR For Alvarez/Escobar/Hechavarria/Nicolino/Marisnick

All The Hype · Nov 14, 2012

markakis8 said:
This is just a crazy trade. Wow. But Marlins fans, wasn't trading Hanley a sign that a fire sale was coming? I just didn't think it would be to all one team :lol: You weren't going to win with the team you had going into 2013...now you can lose much cheaper and improve for the future.

In the big picture, it makes a lot of sense for the Marlins. But because of the stadium ordeal, I think the expectation was to put a winning team on the field NOW rather than 4 years from now. They still had a good core group of players, why not grab a key free agent or two this offseason and see how it goes before completely giving up and sending your entire starting lineup to Canada?

olerudfan · Nov 14, 2012

The Marlins are probably just clearing up cash to sign Josh Hamilton, Adam La Roche and Greinke...

scotty216brs · Nov 14, 2012

olerudfan said:
The Marlins are probably just clearing up cash to sign Josh Hamilton, Adam La Roche and Greinke...

HA. Imagine?

markakis8 · Nov 14, 2012

All The Hype said:
In the big picture, it makes a lot of sense for the Marlins. But because of the stadium ordeal, I think the expectation was to put a winning team on the field NOW rather than 4 years from now. They still had a good core group of players, why not grab a key free agent or two this offseason and see how it goes before completely giving up and sending your entire starting lineup to Canada?

They were more than one key free agent away from winning, but I get what you are saying.

aarne13 · Nov 14, 2012

phillyfan0417 said:
Its much easier when the guy you will replace him with has a skillset like D'arnaud does. He could hit for average and hit HR's.

The Jays have had too many "can't miss" prospects behind the plate. I would rather wait and see if TDA can truly deliver before trading anyone. The thought is that they will share C/DH duties.

All The Hype · Nov 14, 2012

markakis8 said:
They were more than one key free agent away from winning, but I get what you are saying.

I think a big part of it was the guys they picked up underachieving. Other than Stanton and Reyes, no one really had a good year for the Marlins.

I also thought it was interesting that those two guys (Reyes, Stanton) were the only two on the entire team who had more than 353 At Bats this season. Hard to win when your lineup changes daily and the guys can never really mesh together and get any momentum going.

If they all play closer to their potential, it's a completely different team who probably wouldn't have been 15 out at the break.

phillyfan0417 · Nov 14, 2012

aarne13 said:
The Jays have had too many "can't miss" prospects behind the plate. I would rather wait and see if TDA can truly deliver before trading anyone. The thought is that they will share C/DH duties.

Definitely agree with you. I was just pointing out the tools of D'arnaud could be far superior to Arencibia. I've been following D'arnaud since he was drafted and have said from the very start he would be the prospect the phillies would regret losing the most.

thefatguy · Nov 14, 2012

/Buehrle/Reyes to TOR For Alvarez/Escobar/Hechavarria/Nicolino/Marisnick

scotty216brs said:
Do the Jays even have a manager yet?

In my best Archer-esque voice......Nooooope!

TBTwinsFan · Nov 14, 2012

emarc27 · Nov 14, 2012

TBTwinsFan said:
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People definitely wanted to see him say something really stupid. It mud be annoying for him to be constantly baited into saying something you'll later regret. From what I hear, it sounds like he's handling this entire situation well.

Will Style 13 · Nov 14, 2012

Madness. I think the Jays did awesome. Good move getting Escobar out of Toronto just for PR reasons alone.

DeliciousBacon · Nov 14, 2012

Marlins are just clearing salary for A-Rod.

ffgameman · Nov 14, 2012

Hey are even shopping Logan Morrison.

aarne13 · Nov 14, 2012

Will Style 13 said:
Madness. I think the Jays did awesome. Good move getting Escobar out of Toronto just for PR reasons alone.

The eye patch fiasco didn't really have anything to do with it. He was being shopped around before the AS break. You can't really complain whenever you can pick up some Allstar players for mostly prospects and some ok ml'ers.

AmishDave · Nov 14, 2012

thefatguy said:
In my best Archer-esque voice......Nooooope!

Jesse - Unless you've watched my YT vid's, you don't know my voice :lol:

scotty216brs · Nov 14, 2012

ffgameman said:
Hey are even shopping Logan Morrison.

Crazy, I thought he would be untouchable with Stanton but then again it's the Marlins we are talking about, lol.

Hoping the Sox make a push for him because of our 1B/LF needs. I'm a big fan.

19braves77 · Nov 14, 2012

Royals, Rockies, Orioles, and Tigers also interested in acquiring both Logan Morrison and Rickey Nolasco.

Bob Loblaw · Nov 14, 2012

SHARKTITS

19braves77 · Nov 14, 2012

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kurtbad...da/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

More on the taxes of being a player in Toronto.

James52411 · Nov 14, 2012

Great line from an article detailing Loria's defense of the trade:

Radio talk show host Jeff DeForrest fielded calls from irate listeners shortly after news of the trade broke Tuesday.
"The next move obviously is to have Fidel Castro throw out the first pitch next year," DeForrest said. "That's the only way they could alienate the fans more than they have."

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