sportscardtheory
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Why not just start threads and bump threads about HOF and retired players.
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Lack of appreciation for baseball's history - My rant
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Why not just start threads and bump threads about HOF and retired players.
Bob Loblaw
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I just sold the Ruf in my signature for $300. While I made a NICE ROI for 2 weeks (trust me, if I could pull that kinda ROI in, I'd quit my job), I really liked that card and didn't want to get rid of it. But, I know I can likely buy it in a few months considerably cheaper. Then again, I hope I can't -- I hope Ruf takes off. So I collect, but I sell if the prices drive me to. I don't need a label. I just know I don't collect vintage.
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Gonzaleznut
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OF COURSE!!! I am not advocating one type of collecting over another. I collect modern cards of stars (to say Hamilton is not a proven star is just stupid) because I like new cards too. Do I think buying tons of cards of prospects is a tremendous waste of time and money....yes!! But that does not mean others can't find enjoyment in it.
My whole point to this thread was to point out the seeming lack of respect for the history of the game and how that plays out in the hobby and in forums like this. If you can't tell me who Walter Johnson is, but have 60 Addison Russell Bowman Chrome autos then I just think that is sad. Not wrong really, just sad.
My whole point to this thread was to point out the seeming lack of respect for the history of the game and how that plays out in the hobby and in forums like this. If you can't tell me who Walter Johnson is, but have 60 Addison Russell Bowman Chrome autos then I just think that is sad. Not wrong really, just sad.
sportscardtheory
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Again, I don't consider you a prospector. You are a Phillies collector who sells when you can make a nice profit... and most likely you put the profit back into your Phillies collection. It's just not the same as buying any player at all with the intention to make money in the near future. Sure you don't need label, but you certainly aren't a prospector.
Austin
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There already is a vintage collectors forum on FCB. But it rarely gets posted in, probably because most members don't know, or forget, it exists.
In 20 years, todays "prospector cards", will be in the hands of collectors, not the prospector.
Many of us prospect for a few extra bucks and to support our pc. I still have all my old cards. But prospecting is very fun and exciting. You call it empty. Is going to Disneyland empty? You pay a lot to get in, go on a bunch of rides, and at the end of the day, leave with a $50 sweatshirt, you could have got from target for $15. But those rides leave thrills and memories, you will never forget.
sportscardtheory
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Yes, gambling can be fun. I'm not denying that.
This whole lack of respect for the game being blamed on prospecting is a joke. For many, it's the thirst to find the next great, that's drives them towards prospecting. I collected Carew for years. I was done. The thrill in adding another went away, it does for most. I wanted something else to do. I used my knowledge and love of the game and it's history to jump into prospecting. Now, I enjoy doing both. I prospect and build up some nice angels cards I enjoy. I'm basically the angels version of the character played in fever pitch.
To compare cards to stocks. IBM, intc, sun micro were great stocks. I had a lot of fun with them 20 years ago. Now I look for companies that will be great for the next 20. This doesn't mean I don't respect the companies or the history of the stock market. Looking for the next great is a thrill. If you can make money, it's even more fun. I won't put myself in the same catagory as jaypers, with time invested, but I am always learning/researching about prospects and comparing them to the greats, to help me decide where their future is.
There are jacka$$ collectors and jacka$$ prospectors. Neither of this group respect the game or know much of it's history. Let's talk chit about those guys and leave the good people on both sides alone to do whatever they want. There is room in this hobby for both.
To compare cards to stocks. IBM, intc, sun micro were great stocks. I had a lot of fun with them 20 years ago. Now I look for companies that will be great for the next 20. This doesn't mean I don't respect the companies or the history of the stock market. Looking for the next great is a thrill. If you can make money, it's even more fun. I won't put myself in the same catagory as jaypers, with time invested, but I am always learning/researching about prospects and comparing them to the greats, to help me decide where their future is.
There are jacka$$ collectors and jacka$$ prospectors. Neither of this group respect the game or know much of it's history. Let's talk chit about those guys and leave the good people on both sides alone to do whatever they want. There is room in this hobby for both.
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Wow. You remind me of my grandpa. He was a good guy, but he too thought Disneyland was a waste of time.
sportscardtheory
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I've never been to Disney anything, but I'm sure it would be a good time.
predatorkj
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I've never really had much of an issue with prospecting. It's not my cup of tea but I don't view badly. But I see a lot of folks who really only are in the hobby to make money. They don't collect anything. Those are the types I don't understand. I don't have a problem with it by any means and I know people might just do it on the side. I just don't understand it because it's not something I would do. Doesn't make it wrong or bad though. And like I've said, the ones I really honestly have an issue with are the types who get bitter about it. Who act like you're an idiot for enjoying the hobby. I don't have time for people like that. They don't have to understand me, but they sure as hell don't need to be giving me grief over it. Especially if they are trying to sell me something related to the hobby. That makes not a lick of sense!
predatorkj
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Disney is fun. Lot of cool stuff to do and see. I'd still rather be fishing but it's not exactly a bad experience.
joey12508
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not talking about vintage. retired players from the 80's to the present.
sportscardtheory
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Baseball is baseball. Talk about whatever you want. I really don't get why people want to segregate themselves. I mean, it really is as simple as posting. You want to talk about HOF players/cards, make threads or bump threads about HOF players/cards. It's not rocket science. I do it all the time, make threads about non-prospects. Where are all you people for those threads? You aren't all over them (not just mine) like you are putting on you will be if it was separate. You are nowhere to be found. You can't complain about content when it's YOUR job to create and support the content. FCB isn't here to entertain us, we are here to entertain each other.
TBTwinsFan
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You know what's funny... The Minnesota Golden Gophers are going to celebrate their 150th season this year. When the Gophers became a team, a puck had never dropped on a frozen lake in the iron range of northern Minnesota (assumed, according to my source) and wouldn't for another 32 years.
And who cares? Very few people.
I was at a show a couple years ago. It was mainly a vintage show, with 1-2 tables of modern. I was thumbing through the singles at a modern table, looking for Mike Kvasnicka autos for my Gophers PC and I overheard one of the guys running the table. He said, "We are the only one with 'good' stuff here?"
That made me a little sad for the hobby.
Anyways, I'm sorry for the randomness. I know it didn't really contribute to the thread at all.
And who cares? Very few people.
I was at a show a couple years ago. It was mainly a vintage show, with 1-2 tables of modern. I was thumbing through the singles at a modern table, looking for Mike Kvasnicka autos for my Gophers PC and I overheard one of the guys running the table. He said, "We are the only one with 'good' stuff here?"
That made me a little sad for the hobby.
Anyways, I'm sorry for the randomness. I know it didn't really contribute to the thread at all.
RiceLynnEvans75
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Exactly.
uniquebaseballcards
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Yes, prospectors, like any investor, are supposed to sell their cards away. But will collectors want everything that's left over from prospectors? Unless collectors are interested in MiLB players, its easy to see most of these cards treated like late '80s/early '90s cards are treated today.
So true Mike. I think if I pulled a Matthewson 1/1 cut I would crap myself. Way better than a Ruth (although that would be pretty crap worthy too).
If I pulled a Matthewson cut, I'd spontainously combust.
