Great weekend score at a mall show

Mamunrud · Oct 22, 2012

I did a small two day mall card show this past weekend and scored the following. Slaes were slow but there was some great stuff to wheel and deal on:

In a couple of seperate deals I traded away a Kobe Bryant Finest RC Refractor (had nothing into it, left over from a collection) plus two low end Braves autos and a Maddux jerset card, plus $75 cash and got these:

Then on Sunday I made a sweet purchase, paid $250 for this pair.

The Jordan RC passed all my tests for authenticity. Under magnification you can see the lines/grooves on the basketball on the bottom rear of the card. You can also see the little tiny dots in the orange part of the Fleer banner on the front, plus there's no blurriness of letters in the "Michael Jordan" name on the front. Seller told me he was with the original owner guy back in the 80's when he bought the set for $10 at a show. The card has some small corner issues but for the price I couldn't turn them down.

Moonlight Graham · Oct 22, 2012

Nicely done!

200lbhockeyplayer · Oct 22, 2012

What are your plans with the Jordan and Payton? If I were you, I'd drop them in the mail to George_Calfas for the PSA submission and see what they come back. It will be the best $15 you've spent.

The Payton looks narrow from the scan to my eye, but it's impossible to tell, but if both are good, the Jordan should grade at least a 5-6 I would think and you'll make the money back for sure. I am just skeptical with seemingly "too good to be true" deals like this from a dealer at a show.

Just an opinion.

George_Calfas · Oct 22, 2012

We can sub those

Mamunrud · Oct 22, 2012

200lbhockeyplayer said:
What are your plans with the Jordan and Payton? If I were you, I'd drop them in the mail to George_Calfas for the PSA submission and see what they come back. It will be the best $15 you've spent.

The Payton looks narrow from the scan to my eye, but it's impossible to tell, but if both are good, the Jordan should grade at least a 5-6 I would think and you'll make the money back for sure. I am just skeptical with seemingly "too good to be true" deals like this from a dealer at a show.

Just an opinion.

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Thanks for the opinion and I understand your concern. I already have someone interested in both the Jordan and the Payton so I may wait a bit before deciding to grade these. This is the fourth Jordan RC I've owned in my 20+ years of doing cards and I've been advised on some of the telltale signs of what to look for. This card passed all my tests so I fell pretty good it's legit, plus the seller had all the rest of the cards from the set too. Another thing that made me comfortable about this one is that the seller was tasked with helping sell the cards after the original owner passed away a few weeks ago. The family was clueless to what he had or how to sell the stuff so the guy I bought the cards from was with them at the show as an advisor friend. Also his story of being with the guy when he bought the set back in the 80's from a show promoter that I knew helped too.

Mamunrud · Oct 22, 2012

George_Calfas said:
We can sub those

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George, what is the deadline with getting the cards to you to make the next submission?

A_Pharis · Oct 22, 2012

Wow!

I agree on getting them graded - while your judgement is good on how to spot fakes, seeing them graded adds bidder confidence (if you went the auction route). I see it as a HUGE value-add for such a cheap cost with the group sub.

Mamunrud · Oct 22, 2012

A_Pharis said:
Wow!

I agree on getting them graded - while your judgement is good on how to spot fakes, seeing them graded adds bidder confidence (if you went the auction route). I see it as a HUGE value-add for such a cheap cost with the group sub.

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For me, it's more a timing thing. After this coming weekend I don't have much going on card-wise until December so maybe sending them in with the group sub would make sense as I could possibly have them back by then. Do you know when the deadline for submissions for the group sub is?

George_Calfas · Oct 22, 2012

Mamunrud said:
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George, what is the deadline with getting the cards to you to make the next submission?

Since they are higher dollar we can send anytime and have a fast turn around.

jbhofmann · Oct 22, 2012

George hooked me up so I could send some higher end items. Sent em' out last week George.

Thanks again!

Mamunrud · Dec 7, 2012

Grading Update!!! Got my results posted online at Beckett for these and did fairly well. The Jordan RC actually got a BGS 8 and the Payton RC a 7.5, while on the Bowman Chrome RC autos the Bradley and Bauer got 9.5s with a 10 auto. The Starling, Taveras, Bogaerts got 9.0s with a 10 auto and the Profar got 8.5 with a 10 auto. The Jordan RC alone will pay for everything!!!

Sjrmn91 · Dec 7, 2012

Congrats sir, that's awesome! Be sure to post scans when you get them back.

Pine Tar · Dec 7, 2012

Isn't that Jordan highly faked.......Not saying this one is though.

cgilmo · Dec 7, 2012

Pine Tar said:
Isn't that Jordan highly faked.......Not saying this one is though.

Fakes are easy to spot if you know what to look for

1st4040 · Dec 7, 2012

most of the right side of the card looks chipped up in the scan and it still got an 8?

George_Calfas · Dec 7, 2012

You win

Mamunrud · Dec 7, 2012

Pine Tar said:
Isn't that Jordan highly faked.......Not saying this one is though.

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Well, this passed Beckett's inspection and my own tests learned thru 20+ years of dealing cards. As stated before, I had a good idea of what to look for.

Here's the sub-grade breakdown:

Centering - 8.5
Corners - 7.5
Edges - 9.0
Surface - 9.0
Final grade - 8.0

wolfmanalfredo · Dec 8, 2012

Mamunrud said:
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Well, this passed Beckett's inspection and my own tests learned thru 20+ years of dealing cards. As stated before, I had a good idea of what to look for.

Here's the sub-grade breakdown:

Centering - 8.5
Corners - 7.5
Edges - 9.0
Surface - 9.0
Final grade - 8.0

Congrats on the grade. I'm sorry if I'm coming off critical, but how did those edges get a 9? Must've had a grader in a good mood that day

Gwynn545 · Dec 8, 2012

I used to work at BGS, and this is straight from the manual:

Check 4.5 E: Edges should be smooth and straight.
Check the left front side first. I fit looks good, grade a "9" and move on.
The rest of the card should be fine.

allstars · Dec 8, 2012

Gwynn545 said:
I used to work at BGS, and this is straight from the manual:

Check 4.5 E: Edges should be smooth and straight.
Check the left front side first. I fit looks good, grade a "9" and move on.
The rest of the card should be fine.

That's crazy that those chipped edges got a 9. Did someone write Brian Gray on the package or something?

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