Manager of the Year awards..........

RStadlerASU22 · Aug 18, 2015

I'll echo MOTY is for teams that exceeded expectation not the best team.

I'd say managers for the Cubs , Stros , Mets , Cards , Yankees , even Royals (for not falling off) could be considered

Ryan

Golden Gopher · Aug 18, 2015

RStadlerASU22 said:
I'll echo MOTY is for teams that exceeded expectation not the best team.

I'd say managers for the Cubs , Stros , Mets , Cards , Yankees , even Royals (for not falling off) could be considered

Ryan

Don't get me wrong the Cardinals are a great team, but weren't they suppose to be great this season. I don't really see them exceeding any expectations. The Royals were also suppose to be a really good team this year. Yes they are new to being a top team and staying power at the top is great, but still they were suppose to win.

George_Calfas · Aug 18, 2015

Golden Gopher said:
Don't get me wrong the Cardinals are a great team, but weren't they suppose to be great this season. I don't really see them exceeding any expectations. The Royals were also suppose to be a really good team this year. Yes they are new to being a top team and staying power at the top is great, but still they were suppose to win.

They lost their Ace, #3 , and #4 hitters.

Golden Gopher · Aug 18, 2015

George_Calfas said:
They lost their Ace, #3 , and #4 hitters.

They still have a better starting rotation than most Major League teams and Michael Wacha could easily fill the Ace role. The Offense is still pretty strong top to bottom. I guess it is great to have a lot of depth on a team.

Super Mario · Aug 18, 2015

In the three years Mike Matheny has been manager of the St. Louis Cardinals, he has led his team to the NLCS every season, and the World Series once.

And in zero of those seasons has he won Manager of the Year.

Which I am not a fan of.

It doesn't really mean anything in the grand scheme of things, but it would be nice for him to be recognized for the job he is doing.

Hawk8 · Aug 18, 2015

Super Mario said:
I think the award structure as a whole is flawed.

Look at the Gold Glove awards. It's a DEFENSIVE award.

But people can't separate offense and defense when making a decision.

I can separate them lol

Golden Gopher · Aug 18, 2015

Super Mario said:
In the three years Mike Matheny has been manager of the St. Louis Cardinals, he has led his team to the NLCS every season, and the World Series once.

And in zero of those seasons has he won Manager of the Year.

Which I am not a fan of.

It doesn't really mean anything in the grand scheme of things, but it would be nice for him to be recognized for the job he is doing.

He is doing a damn good job that is for sure. He also has the players year in and year out it seems. The thing is as stated early the award is usually given to a Manager that has a team that isn't expected to do much and wins the division and makes the playoffs. I don't know if that is the way it should be because I imagine it is still very difficult for a Manager like Matheny to have his players perform at the level they do year in and year out.

Mozzie22 · Aug 18, 2015

Matheny deserves the award. The Cardinals have been destroyed by injuries and they still are on pace to win 102 games. Matheny was hired for his leadership qualities but this year he has gotten much better at in-game decisions. Of course I'm biased but I think he should have one it a couple years ago.

Brewer Andy · Aug 18, 2015

Mozzie22 said:
Matheny deserves the award. The Cardinals have been destroyed by injuries and they still are on pace to win 102 games. Matheny was hired for his leadership qualities but this year he has gotten much better at in-game decisions. Of course I'm biased but I think he should have one it a couple years ago.

I don't even like agreeing with this (consolation that Matheny was a Brewer?) but I do. Maddening what that club does over and over

jszczech · Aug 18, 2015

If the Twins finish strong and make the playoffs then Paul Molitor needs some consideration.

Golden Gopher · Aug 18, 2015

jszczech said:
If the Twins finish strong and make the playoffs then Paul Molitor needs some consideration.

The Twins were another team that was suppose to be horrible this season. They sure have exceeded there expectations.

RStadlerASU22 · Aug 18, 2015

Golden Gopher said:
Don't get me wrong the Cardinals are a great team, but weren't they suppose to be great this season. I don't really see them exceeding any expectations. The Royals were also suppose to be a really good team this year. Yes they are new to being a top team and staying power at the top is great, but still they were suppose to win.

As some have covered , the expectations changed based on loss of players, and they are still winning. So yes , before the year, high expectations. As players go down exp usually go down as well so I'd say they are exceeding. With the Royals I did state it was for more of not falling off or back, which I thought some felt could happen.

And yes Josh , I'd add the Twins/PM in the discussion as well.

Ryan

Golden Gopher · Aug 18, 2015

RStadlerASU22 said:
As some have covered , the expectations changed based on loss of players, and they are still winning. So yes , before the year, high expectations. As players go down exp usually go down as well so I'd say they are exceeding. With the Royals I did state it was for more of not falling off or back, which I thought some felt could happen.

And yes Josh , I'd add the Twins/PM in the discussion as well.

Ryan

I agree the Cardinals did have several huge injuries including Wainwright, but they also had serious depth on there team. I don't think when they lost Wainwright and the others that the people who predict things were dropping them off the at having a successful season.

BiggioBrooks755 · Aug 18, 2015

Based on players and potential on the team, it wont be the Nationals unless they figure it out

hive17 · Aug 18, 2015

I know you're asking about the Majors, but Carlos Subero, who manages the Biloxi Shuckers is the MotY at ANY level. His team won the first half of the SOU League 43/25, and that included 55 road games in a row. That takes some quality leadership.

RStadlerASU22 · Aug 18, 2015

BiggioBrooks755 said:
Based on players and potential on the team, it wont be the Nationals unless they figure it out

I'll stand by ya' as I remember you calling out Strasburg as a non-star and getting bashed. I'd say your more right than wrong at this point.

[MENTION=12588]Golden Gopher[/MENTION] , we will just have to disagree about the Cards. However they were only 1 of the 6-8 teams I mentioned.

Ryan

BiggioBrooks755 · Aug 18, 2015

Thank ya sir

u2me57 · Aug 19, 2015

If things stay the way they are right now I'd give it to Hinch in the AL and Matheny in the NL with Maddon a close 2nd.

Golden Gopher · Aug 19, 2015

RStadlerASU22 said:
I'll stand by ya' as I remember you calling out Strasburg as a non-star and getting bashed. I'd say your more right than wrong at this point.

@Golden Gopher , we will just have to disagree about the Cards. However they were only 1 of the 6-8 teams I mentioned.

Ryan

Yes we will. I do however think Matheny is doing a great job and has been for a couple of years.

WaxPax · Aug 19, 2015

NOBODY, I repeat NOBODY picked anyone except the Nationals to win the NL East, let alone the Mets....Factor in Wright missing basically the entire year so far (8 games played), and d'Arnaud missing more than half the season as well, Collins has to be on the NL short list with Maddon

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