Hope you all have money

Ryan Cracknell ‏@tradercracks
So National Treasures and Topps Dynasty Baseball are now scheduled to release on the same day. And 7 days after Five Star. #collect

No way NT releases on time...

I know alot of collectors that were looking forward to them would have saved up for the High-end products, but doesn't coming out this close to the Holidays limit how many people that were "on the fence" about it actually spend the money?

A huge part of the problem in our hobby IMO. Releasing cards for the current year AFTER the season is over

lambert58 said:

A huge part of the problem in our hobby IMO. Releasing cards for the current year AFTER the season is over

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I'm pretty sure a super high-end 2013-14 Basketball release (NT I think?) didn't release until August and the premier high-end Hockey (The Cup) just came out two weeks ago...

I pre-ordered months ago with Atlanta Sports 'cards so it wouldn't hurt my pocket this time of year. Got two Chrome Football boxes and two Jumbo Bowman Draft boxes coming.....Got great pricing too!

Buying wax is so 2013. Secondary market scoops for the win!

gt2590 said:

I know alot of collectors that were looking forward to them would have saved up for the High-end products, but doesn't coming out this close to the Holidays limit how many people that were "on the fence" about it actually spend the money?

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I don't really see it that way. I think in many cases people will buy it for themselves for a gift or buy it for someone else for a gift.

Topnotchsy said:

I don't really see it that way. I think in many cases people will buy it for themselves for a gift or buy it for someone else for a gift.

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Uh...not usually. This time of year I've got way more things on my plate. My purchases will slow to a trickle here shortly. I get kinda ticked when eBay sellers put up rare Bagwell's for auction this time of year. And they probably have good reason too: selling rare cards lands money to buy presents. But they really leave money on the table. It's their call and I'm sure their purposes are suited regardless. Now a manufacturer doing it seems a little more boneheaded. I don't know about you guys but my family doesn't buy me sports stuff and they sure the heck wouldn't be buying this type of expensive product even if they did. And I'm not buying it either this time of year.

Topnotchsy said:

I don't really see it that way. I think in many cases people will buy it for themselves for a gift or buy it for someone else for a gift.

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As a guy who has in the past, as recently as February, but not currently, worked at two LCSs that sell wax, even high-end, I know that high-end wax is hardly ever bought as a gift for someone else. Sometimes guys use their leftover money and get it for themselves, but rarely does a gift break the $100/box mark.

I understand the orders are already in and that Topps has their sales guaranteed, but not good for the shops, and hence, bad for the Hobby and long-term bad for Topps.

Any chance we can get Sooz's insider thoughts, if she's still around? [MENTION=3915]yanxchick[/MENTION]?

gt2590 said:

As a guy who has in the past, as recently as February, but not currently, worked at two LCSs that sell wax, even high-end, I know that high-end wax is hardly ever bought as a gift for someone else. Sometimes guys use their leftover money and get it for themselves, but rarely does a gift break the $100/box mark.

I understand the orders are already in and that Topps has their sales guaranteed, but not good for the shops, and hence, bad for the Hobby and long-term bad for Topps.

Any chance we can get Sooz's insider thoughts, if she's still around? @yanxchick?

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I've seen a lot of big purchases after the first of the year. People are getting bonuses and tax returns and whatnot.

predatorkj said:

I've seen a lot of big purchases after the first of the year. People are getting bonuses and tax returns and whatnot.

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For sure, but not in early to mid December, when these high-end products are supposed to hit.

Plus, Contenders FT always arrives in mid to late January to steal some thunder from other late releases...