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lonesomeagle1

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Aug 7, 2008
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Northwest NJ
Morning all

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gt2590

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Aug 17, 2008
38,617
3,198
Near Philly
Morning all!

Almost 8 hours of driving today. 1/2 of it with the in-laws. And their annoying cat. And they'll be here for 5 days. And then a repeat 8 hours of driving on Sunday.

Does that make your day seem better now? :lol:
 

tramers

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Aug 7, 2008
23,265
2,251
hickory nc
Morning all!

Almost 8 hours of driving today. 1/2 of it with the in-laws. And their annoying cat. And they'll be here for 5 days. And then a repeat 8 hours of driving on Sunday.

Does that make your day seem better now? :lol:

MIL in a wheelchair - lives with us plus youngest daughter and her two sons , my son so WHAT'S a holiday?
 

clarkzac

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Oct 31, 2010
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Good morning all. Trying to get rid of this head cold that I came down with over the weekend. Feeling a bit better today. Had some downtime at work this morning and went through the HOF ballot and came up with this-

Player Career bWAR
Barry Bonds 162.4
Roger Clemens 140.3
Chipper Jones 85
Mike Mussina 83
Curt Schilling 79.9
Jim Thome 72.9
Larry Walker 72.6
Scott Rolen 70
Manny Ramirez 69.2
Edgar Martinez 68.3
Gary Sheffield 60.3
Andruw Jones 60.2
Vladimir Guerrero 59.3
Sammy Sosa 58.4
Johnny Damon 56
Jeff Kent 55.2
Fred McGriff 52.4
Johan Santana 51.4
Jamie Moyer 50.4
Omar Vizquel 45.3
Carlos Zambrano 44.6
Chris Carpenter 34.5
Livan Hernandez 31.1
Orlando Hudson 30.9
Kevin Millwood 29.4
Trevor Hoffman 28.4
Carlos Lee 28.2
Billy Wagner 28.1
Kerry Wood 27.7
Hideki Matsui 21.3
Aubrey Huff 20.2
Jason Isringhausen 13.2
Brad Lidge 8.2
 

michaelstepper

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Jan 15, 2010
8,211
519
southeast Alaska
morning.
going to.be impossible for these hof voters. guess they can pick 10? my 10.

Bonds: even if he played only 10 years he was hof for that. throw away the second half of his career.

clemens: see above

chipper Jones: because he is

mussina: probably one of the toughest pitchers I remember watching not named pedro.

thome: monster guy, no question to me

Edgar: considered by his peers as the toughest hitter they faced. the DH award is named after him for crying out loud.

Omar:just because of defense alone. much like Ozzie to me

that's only 7 but that's all I'd vote for.
 

gt2590

Super Moderator
Aug 17, 2008
38,617
3,198
Near Philly
Evening all!

Hoffman needs to be WAY higher. IMO, he's a lock. You won't find a bigger Mussina fan than me, but that WAR rating is too high...
 

bstanwood

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Sep 24, 2016
3,666
332
Mystic, CT
Vlad Guerrero needs to make it this year for me, there are very few players I enjoyed watching more. He played a pretty complete game, defense wasn't strong but his cannon of an arm made up for some shortcomings out there. It's no end all measurement but he led the league in intentional walks five times...pitchers didn't want any part of him.
 

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