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Why is there no love for the Onyx Draft cards?
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I dont really know how i can explain it to you any better...
Player A has a chrome that sells for thirty and has a sterling, EEE and leaf that sell under 15. If the chrome goes to 100, the sterling/eee will normally get to around half of that while leaf will see a bump too because there are multiple levels of buyers. I would argue the ROI will stay about the same on all those products and even the low end products will see bumps...
Obviously, since you love the extreme scenario, yes, 50 products is not a good thing but VARIETY is and can be sustained.
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Leaf actually returns a solid ROI, so that's why I like it. 2 cases of Leaf Ultimate and I'm already at breakeven after 24 cards. Will likely double, maybe triple my money on Ultimate. Metal and Valiant are still looking good as well. Not at breakeven yet, but just a matter of time.
I don't know much about Onyx, but if the price is right I guess it could have a solid ROI as well.
It's a product with no league licensing and airbrushed photos. It is manufactured by a company with no brand name equity related to baseball cards and less brand equity overall than TriStar, whose card products had MiLB licensing and still failed to attract much interest.
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Actually, to simply respond to the single statement above, Tim, I absolutely hated 2004 as an "investor". Too much choice between Fleer HP, UD SP, EEE, and BC diluted the market. I'd rather have one product - BC.
Of course we all have preferences but I love the variety and have done pretty well with it. If i target a player but think his chrome is too much, I go out and look for sterling/eee and if they continue to develop a name, I'd buy leaf at some point. they are strictly PC for me.
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You point out each product would normally have the same ROI as its competition every year but I'm not sure if this is true - if it is its probably artificially made that way. Sure a certain level of variety can and does exist (not saying variety can be sustained however) but variety negatively affects ROI.
Choice reduces cost, this is one reason why people dislike monopolies. Without EEE/Sterling/Leaf/Onyx/whatever Chrome doesn't go down, it goes up.
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"Money" can be "made" on any prospect "rookie card"
look at all the money that was made on Michael Stanton's 2008 EEE that were readily available for less then a buck 4 years ago
look at all the money that was made on Michael Stanton's 2008 EEE that were readily available for less then a buck 4 years ago
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Frankly money can be made on just about any card, its just all about knowing when to buy and when to sell
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Didn't Onyx originally get exclusives to some guys? I thought Pineda and Teheran were Onyx guys, but then their cards came out in everything. That's the last I heard about Onyx...
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AFAIK, there are no Phillies in their prospect products, otherwise I'd buy them. Interesting cards; I hope they keep doing business.
Are Tristar and Just dead, cardwise? From Just's website, it looks like the only cards they're selling from the past 3 years are, oddly enough, Leaf.
Are Tristar and Just dead, cardwise? From Just's website, it looks like the only cards they're selling from the past 3 years are, oddly enough, Leaf.
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I have never heard of these cards, and without a logo, I will not buy them. Wicked cool looking card, butwith no logo its useless to me
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So, then the only cards in your collection are Topps cards? No Panini, Leaf, Tristar, Just, or Onyx?
Onyx is a copy cat of Tristar - a memorabilia company that tried to put out a set of cards focusing on prospects.
As a casual collector I see Onyx as nothing more than Just Minors cards on PEDs - per box prices are way too much, especially when there maybe simply better buys as far as current BB products go.
I'd snap up a couple of boxes of Onyx if had been configured to have more cards and not try to aim for a relatively high end price point for something not licensed.
As a casual collector I see Onyx as nothing more than Just Minors cards on PEDs - per box prices are way too much, especially when there maybe simply better buys as far as current BB products go.
I'd snap up a couple of boxes of Onyx if had been configured to have more cards and not try to aim for a relatively high end price point for something not licensed.
I don't think they would disagree about being compared to tristar.
I think they would take that.
I think they would take that.
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In homor of Thanksgiving, here is todays card:
1992 Mr. Turkey Superstars:
This card would appear to have no logo.
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ZING!
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Yep. I hate cards without logos. And I hate when they make cards without logos AND actual pictures even more.
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I'm ok with unlicensed cards, and they often look nice and offer a cheaper alternative for PC cards.
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