How's this idea for 2013 Bowman

brentandbecca · Nov 12, 2012

Disagree. For box breakers or case breakers all those inserts ADD VALUE
why take away value and give more base set cards? no way... Bowman has improved because it mixes flagship Topps ideas with prospecting
that is not filler it is value
you may not want those cards or collect them but many do

Jaypers said:
Fewer insert sets.

While it's probably too late to do anything about this for 2013 Bowman, perhaps they will consider doing so in the future, especially if they decide to create a second series.

As it stands, Bowman will include a total of nine such sets. The minis, ultimate prospect auto card and AFLAC/UA autos are boons, but the rest (Bowman Top 100, Blue Sapphire Program, Bowman Black Autographs, Dual Franchise, Futures Game relics, Hometown parallels) constitute too much filler, IMO.

Bob Loblaw · Nov 12, 2012

2 words:

ONLINE

EXCLUSIVE.

cgilmo · Nov 12, 2012

Bob Loblaw said:
2 words:

ONLINE

EXCLUSIVE.

Not everyone is championing the further demise of the hobby shop.

Jimmy Graham · Nov 12, 2012

Topps needs to scout better. In this years chrome could be matt skole adam eaton anthony raunado justin niccilino gregory polanco alen hansen alex meyer thats just off the top of my head

Jaypers · Nov 12, 2012

brentandbecca said:
Disagree. For box breakers or case breakers all those inserts ADD VALUE
why take away value and give more base set cards? no way... Bowman has improved because it mixes flagship Topps ideas with prospecting
that is not filler it is value
you may not want those cards or collect them but many do

My opinion was not based upon a prospector's perspective. It is possible to add value while keeping the sheer number of sets down. They keep increasing in number each year and IMO, it isn't warranted.

uniquebaseballcards · Nov 12, 2012

hofmichael said:
Very cool. I'm glad to see constructive criticism getting noticed by the manufacturer. Does anybody still see the need for Bowman Platinum and Sterling? IMO five Bowman products is easy to many. They end up competing with each other. I think three is plenty.

But wouldn't people say that fewer releases and less competition among products decrease innovation in the prospect part of the hobby?

Bob Loblaw · Nov 12, 2012

cgilmo said:
Not everyone is championing the further demise of the hobby shop.

It's not necessarily the demise of the hobby shop, it's what's best for the savvy consumer and collector.

Stay or go; makes no difference to me.

hofmichael · Nov 12, 2012

uniquebaseballcards said:
But wouldn't people say that fewer releases and less competition among products decrease innovation in the prospect part of the hobby?

Yes but it is probably the same people XXXXXing that there is no value in the Bowman brands anymore.

Austin · Nov 12, 2012

Jaypers said:
Topps Company ‏@toppscards
@BigBreakCards [MENTION=4588]brentandbecca[/MENTION] @toppscards Bowman team aware of this thread and reviewing, believe has merit but also risk, will evaluate

Is Topps' Twitter writer a robot?
Bowman Team aware. Reviewing. Believe has merit but also risk. Will evaluate. Does not compute! Danger! Danger!

Jaypers · Nov 12, 2012

Austin said:
Is Topps' Twitter writer a robot?
Bowman Team aware. Reviewing. Believe has merit but also risk. Will evaluate. Does not compute! Danger! Danger!

140 character limit.

Austin · Nov 12, 2012

Jaypers said:
140 character limit.

Ah, that makes sense. I'm not Twitterfied, so I forgot about that. They still sound like a robot.

Casebusters · Nov 12, 2012

Wonder how collectors feel about this:
Topps make a paper cards of vets & rookies 1-220 in Bowman and 1-220 in Bowman Chrome,
They make a paper cards of prospects 1-110 in regular bowman and a chrome set 1-110 but only have a chrome set for 111-220
and no paper cards 111-220.

This would solve that problem!

vwnut13 · Nov 12, 2012

Bowman 1: 1-165
Bowman 2: 166-330

Casebusters · Nov 12, 2012

vwnut13 said:
Bowman 1: 1-165
Bowman 2: 166-330

I was just saying there are no paper prospects made of cards 111-220 as it stands now..
Making 2 series would make this possible.

BowmanChromeAddict · Nov 12, 2012

Casebusters said:
I was just saying there are no paper prospects made of cards 111-220 as it stands now..
Making 2 series would make this possible.

But why would we want that? I liked the earlier idea...I'm not with you on this one. I love bowman base cards for prospects. You get nice quantities and there are plenty of buyers for them.

Casebusters · Nov 12, 2012

Casebusters said:
I was just saying there are no paper prospects made of cards 111-220 as it stands now..
Making 2 series would make this possible.

BowmanChromeAddict said:
But why would we want that? I liked the earlier idea...I'm not with you on this one. I love bowman base cards for prospects. You get nice quantities and there are plenty of buyers for them.

Jim,
I think you misunderstood me... I want them too,
I was just stating, They way they are distributed now, they are not making paper cards of prospects for cards 111-220. Right now, for example, there is no paper prospect of Jorge Soler.

So I am FOR making paper prospects in both series if they would make a bowman series 1 & 2

BowmanChromeAddict · Nov 12, 2012

Casebusters said:
Jim,
I think you misunderstood me... I want them too,
I was just stating, They way they are distributed now, they are not making paper cards of prospects for cards 111-220. Right now, for example, there is no paper prospect of Jorge Soler.

So I am FOR making paper prospects in both series if they would make a bowman series 1 & 2

Okay. Seems I misunderstood you then. Glad we're on the same page.

Bob Loblaw · Nov 12, 2012

Hug it out, XXXXXes.

Casebusters · Nov 12, 2012

Bob Loblaw said:
Hug it out, XXXXXes.

See we can come to an agreement, Not like some other XXXXers. lol

All it takes in c-o-m-m-u-n-i-c-a-t-i-o-n !!!

saraceno21 · Nov 13, 2012

I think the key is how can Topps add value without encreasing their costs a lot. A step in the right direction was the alternative photo prospects in the Bowman Chrome. It was not too much additional cost to produce those cards and they increased the value of box breaking for collectors. Another suggestion along those lines is adding more insert sets. One possible theme is "Organiations" where by they produce prospect cards of some of the more obscure prospects in an organization such as the Red Sox. Make it a subset with the same design only a different numbering system or letters. At first use some of the more popular organizations then branch out to the others.

Along the "Organization" lines I have always hoped for a Bowman chrome product that attempts to make a card for EVERY player within a given organization for a 1 year period. Now that topps has the minor league license they could do it. They could put out boxes of just those cards and they would sell, even at an increased price.

Welcome to our community

Be apart of something great, join today!

How's this idea for 2013 Bowman

New member

Active member

Well-known member

New member

Well-known member

New member

Active member

New member

Well-known member

Well-known member

Well-known member

Active member

Active member

Active member

New member

Active member

New member

Active member

Active member

New member

Similar threads

Log in