Future HOF Managers

Gonzaleznut · Apr 1, 2012

I was thinking about the HOF topic and wondering who everyone thought would be elected as managers into the HOF?

I would say that Joe Torre, Tony LaRussa and Bobby Cox are pretty much locks. Other than that though I can't think of any. Anyone else care to render an opinion?

BoatsN304s · Apr 1, 2012

I think Jim Leyland has a chance. Maybe Bruce Bochy since he seems he can manage for 10 more years.

Topnotchsy · Apr 1, 2012

Not sure what it takes for a manager to make the Hall but the first names that came to mind are Mike Scioscia and Joe Maddon, though Maddon obviously needs like 10 more years of success first.

Sean_C · Apr 1, 2012

Leyland is a lock IMO (absolute lock if can actually win one with the Tigers).
Terry Francona could be depending on how things go when he gets his next coaching job

hoopster3977 · Apr 1, 2012

Joe Girardi, before Maddon and Francona for sure.

Sean_C · Apr 1, 2012

I could see Girardi before Maddon, but not before Francona at this stage in his career. He's off to a great start, but it's still a bit early.

hoopster3977 said:
Joe Girardi, before Maddon and Francona for sure.

bigpops65 · Apr 2, 2012

Francona is a lock. He won two World Series titles in Boston. Enough said.

michaelstepper · Apr 2, 2012

What about sweet lou?

jbhofmann · Apr 2, 2012

WaxPax · Apr 2, 2012

Gardenhire....

Huffamaniac · Apr 2, 2012

Though not currently managing, but Joe Torre is a given

dietdew · Apr 2, 2012

WaxPax said:
Gardenhire....

I half expected to see Gardy listed here, and yet I still almost threw up in my mouth when I saw it. He's nowhere near the manager Tom Kelly was. Gardy supporters always point to his division titles and dramatic comeback in '06 but fail to consider how weak the Central was for many of those years and just how poor Gardy is when the playoffs roll around. I'd trade all of those division titles for a World Series appearance, which both the White Sox and Tigers have in the last decade. Heck, if it wasn't for the Indians collapse in '07, they'd have a W.S. appearance too. As for the Girardis and Franconas, I wouldn't put them in unless they get a fist full of rings considering what they have to work with.

elmalo · Apr 2, 2012

Mike Scioscia

Slette · Apr 2, 2012

dietdew said:
WaxPax said:

Gardenhire....

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I half expected to see Gardy listed here, and yet I still almost threw up in my mouth when I saw it. He's nowhere near the manager Tom Kelly was. Gardy supporters always point to his division titles and dramatic comeback in '06 but fail to consider how weak the Central was for many of those years and just how poor Gardy is when the playoffs roll around. I'd trade all of those division titles for a World Series appearance, which both the White Sox and Tigers have in the last decade. Heck, if it wasn't for the Indians collapse in '07, they'd have a W.S. appearance too. As for the Girardis and Franconas, I wouldn't put them in unless they get a fist full of rings considering what they have to work with.

So what about Tom Kelly? I was going to mention him, but figured I was just being homer... I probably am, regardless.

MaineMule · Apr 2, 2012

As GN stated, Torre, Cox and Larussa are the drop-dead locks.

Kelly and Francona with 2 WS titles would be in the conversation, though Kelly's resume looks to be complete while Francona might accomplish more.

Pinella, Leyland and Scioscia are all interesting but fall short at this time IMO.

Maddon and Girardi are open books at this time.

dietdew · Apr 2, 2012

I'd love to see Kelly in the Hall. Unfortunately, I think the late 90's damaged his W/L record to the point that its going to be a really hard sell. A lot of people forget that TK had the Twins turned around in 2001, and Mauer and Morneau were already in the Twins system at that point. I think that he would have at least cashed in one title in the past 10 years,

braden · Apr 2, 2012

I don't have the first clue as to what the qualification standards tend to be but Cito Gaston has similar credentials to a lot of the names already listed (Back-toBack WS). And because voters tend to like this sort of thing, the fact that he was the first African-American to manage a team to a WS victory might help.

MaineMule · Apr 2, 2012

braden said:
I don't have the first clue as to what the qualification standards tend to be but Cito Gaston has similar credentials to a lot of the names already listed (Back-toBack WS). And because voters tend to like this sort of thing, the fact that he was the first African-American to manage a team to a WS victory might help.

...well played, forgot about Cito....is he considered the only African-American manager to win a Series?

Looks like Ozzie Guillen may be the only Latino winning manager. Lou Piniella is of Cuban descent, so maybe fits that criteria as well.

dietdew · Apr 2, 2012

How long does one need to be a quality manager to be considered a H.O.Fer? Gaston and Francona only have 12 years managing, Kelly a few more, and a guy like Gardy a few less (didn't check any others). You'd have a hard time making a case for a player with only that much service time, so I would think that a manager would have to possess a significantly longer tenure to be considered. Gaston had 2 rings but under 1,000 wins; Kelly 2 rings under .500 win pct.

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