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1989 Fleer-Billy Ripken FF Question???
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sportscardtheory
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I think these are fakes.
BBCgalaxee
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Martinff knows for sure
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i just sent him the link and postBBCgalaxee said:
I remember reading about this in the Standard Catalog of Baseball Cards:
"At the height of the furor over the vulgarity shown on the initial print run of Bill Ripken's card, when genuine examples were selling for as high as $125, this fantasy card surfaced to prey on collectors. In standard size, the card is printed in black-and-white on front and back, re-producing a genuine card. On the back typography was added to make the piece look like a test card. This fraudulent product has no collectable value."
"At the height of the furor over the vulgarity shown on the initial print run of Bill Ripken's card, when genuine examples were selling for as high as $125, this fantasy card surfaced to prey on collectors. In standard size, the card is printed in black-and-white on front and back, re-producing a genuine card. On the back typography was added to make the piece look like a test card. This fraudulent product has no collectable value."
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"Real?? "magicpapa said:
No, very fake. Thin, glossy paper stock. Produced around 89/90.
I have an article or two on these in the 'Articles' section of the website.
Take Care,
Jon
www.billripken.com
MartinFFcollector
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As Jon stated thru the website email and posted above, fake indeed.
"One of the easiest ways an unscrupulous seller rips collectors off is to simply photocopy a regular card in black and white, and then claim it is some sort of special uncolored proof. I've seen this done recently with the 1989 Fleer Billy Ripken errors." - Topps-Heritage.com
“I can say, by the way, with certainty, that the black-and-
white "test" cards are totally counterfeit. Detailed examination of these
reveals they are poorly rescreened from genuine cards.
Regards,
Bob Lemke”
Here's what I know.
Fake
Glossy, photo type paper
Only the FF has surfaced. No Griffey, Johnson etc.
Photocopied. Lacking print dots.
Not made on standard sheet size. Full sheet pic ( as well as articles) on www.billripken.com
GEM (still around?) is the only idiotic company to grade them.
1st I've heard of them being "found" was them being passed around at a card show in early '89
REAL B/W CARD (BACK)-
"One of the easiest ways an unscrupulous seller rips collectors off is to simply photocopy a regular card in black and white, and then claim it is some sort of special uncolored proof. I've seen this done recently with the 1989 Fleer Billy Ripken errors." - Topps-Heritage.com
“I can say, by the way, with certainty, that the black-and-
white "test" cards are totally counterfeit. Detailed examination of these
reveals they are poorly rescreened from genuine cards.
Regards,
Bob Lemke”
Here's what I know.
Fake
Glossy, photo type paper
Only the FF has surfaced. No Griffey, Johnson etc.
Photocopied. Lacking print dots.
Not made on standard sheet size. Full sheet pic ( as well as articles) on www.billripken.com
GEM (still around?) is the only idiotic company to grade them.
1st I've heard of them being "found" was them being passed around at a card show in early '89
REAL B/W CARD (BACK)-
magicpapa
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Thank You MartinFFcollector 
MartinFFcollector
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No problem.
I bought one of these early in my FF days in 2003 or around there. Unknowingly thought I stumbled on a rare card, having never seen one. Paid between $40-$70 for it. Then few days later numerous ciopies started poping up on ebay. I was like what?! Live and learn.
I bought one of these early in my FF days in 2003 or around there. Unknowingly thought I stumbled on a rare card, having never seen one. Paid between $40-$70 for it. Then few days later numerous ciopies started poping up on ebay. I was like what?! Live and learn.
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