1993 Flair Printing Plate?!?

waxmorgue · Apr 11, 2012

Does anyone know if these are legitimate? I know Pinnacle first started inserting plates in 1997 but I have never seen these. It says right in the auction that it was not pack pulled.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1993-Flair-Coll ... 729wt_1135

1st4040 · Apr 11, 2012

good deal.. I would say go for it!

George_Calfas · Apr 11, 2012

They have sold quite a few plates and there has been some concern expressed here and other sites about these.

csmtampa · Apr 11, 2012

Back when I was younger my dad printed a uncut sheet I had onto thin metal to make a plaque.

Since then I stay away from non pack pulled printing plates.

waxmorgue · Apr 11, 2012

csmtampa said:
Back when I was younger my dad printed a uncut sheet I had onto thin metal to make a plaque.

Since then I stay away from non pack pulled printing plates.

Thanks. That's what I was thinking. I have not followed The Hobby in quite some time so I thought maybe I missed out on something with these plates surfacing. I'd imagine Canseco collectors bidding these items up into the 100s by now if they were legit.

bustin_knuckles · Apr 11, 2012

I think I read somewhere that printing plates didn't print the foil and these plates have the outline of the foil. I that makes sense. Where his name is that shouldn't be there.

katieneack · Apr 11, 2012

I think I actually asked this guy where these plates came from at one point. He claimed he bought a huge lot of them from a guy who got them in a bankruptcy auction. I don't think I believe that though. Especially considering where the item is coming from. There are a lot of "manufactured" collectibles that come out of that area. Still a cool collectors item for a player collector if the price doesn't get too high I guess.

IUjapander · Apr 11, 2012

I'm not real familiar with 93 Flair, but it looks like the "Flair" and "Jose Canseco" are foil on the base card. If this is true then that plate is 100% fake. Foil is applied after the printing process so you would not see it on the plate.

Here is an example.

Notice how "Ryan Doumit" and "C" are in foil

Now look at these and notice how you can't see Ryan Doumit or C in any of these? (PS - if anyone has the Cyan, I would really like it!)

gracecollector · Apr 11, 2012

IUjapander said:
I'm not real familiar with 93 Flair, but it looks like the "Flair" and "Jose Canseco" are foil on the base card. If this is true then that plate is 100% fake. Foil is applied after the printing process so you would not see it on the plate.

Exactly correct. This plate is a fake. On a real plate, there wouldn't be anything printed under where the foil is applied, and on this plate you can see the words Flair and Jose Canseco. Player names and Flair were only stamped in gold foil on 93 Flair, not printed on the card.

waxmorgue · Apr 11, 2012

Thanks for the info, guys!

PadresFan86 · Apr 11, 2012

This should be your first clue that something is shady

"These are not pulled from packs!! Please don't ask ~~"

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