THE BEST-OVERALL ACTIVE TEAM - by position - Left Field

sportscardtheory · Jun 30, 2012

Honorable Mentions; Josh Willingham, Alex Gordon, Jason Kubel, Desmond Jennings, Alfonso Soriano, Johnny Damon

Lets assemble the best-overall active team by voting on who the best overall is at each position. Now up, left field. I'll do the next position after we get 50+ votes, then the next and so on.

VOTE FOR YOUR TOP-TWO

C - YADIER MOLINA
1B - JOEY VOTTO
2B - ROBINSON CANO
SS - TROY TULOWITZKI
3B - MIGUEL CABRERA
LF - RYAN BRAUN
CF -
RF -
DH -
SP -
SP -
SP -
SP -
RP -

THE GREATEST PLAYERS OF ALL-TIME TEAM

Anthony K. · Jun 30, 2012

Carlos Gonzalez and Ryan Braun are the only two logical choices in LF, in my own opinion, and I would choose Braun overall.

sheetskout · Jun 30, 2012

This shouldn't even be a contest for the top overall right now. Now, I know someone's going to reply with an argument but it's pretty difficult to debate:

4 straight Silver Slugger awards
a ROY
an MVP
4 straight All-Star appearances in 4 eligible years (going to be five)
Another top-3 MVP year in three other-eligible seasons

You may not like him, which I think is ridiculous, but he's the best outfielder in baseball.

hive17 · Jun 30, 2012

I'm not so much going to point out how one-sided the voting should be, but I'm more perplexed how relatively weak the choices are. No one outside of Braun has been the model of superstar consistancy, allowing the Gonzales could get there (I'd like to see more than 2 1/2 year out of him).

homerun28aa · Jun 30, 2012

If PEDs were not in the picture, Braun would not be the best LFer in baseball (yes, I know this is 100% speculation and could very well not be true), but I just can't bring myself to vote for a cheater. I had the utmost respect for him before that whole fiasco and I just think probably Carlos Gonzalez deserves this award since Braun for me is disqualified. Holliday is also good

sportscardtheory · Jun 30, 2012

I'm surprised at the lack of support for Holliday. He's an MVP caliber player when 100% healthy.

uniquebaseballcards · Jun 30, 2012

sportscardtheory said:
I'm surprised at the lack of support for Holliday. He's an MVP caliber player when 100% healthy.

I think he's the oldest guy on the list and thus farthest removed from being a prospect, so its not surprising he'd have the least support here

homerun28aa · Jun 30, 2012

uniquebaseballcards said:
I think he's the oldest guy on the list and thus farthest removed from being a prospect, so its not surprising he'd have the least support here

+1

All The Hype · Jul 1, 2012

homerun28aa said:
If PEDs were not in the picture, Braun would not be the best LFer in baseball (yes, I know this is 100% speculation and could very well not be true), but I just can't bring myself to vote for a cheater. I had the utmost respect for him before that whole fiasco and I just think probably Carlos Gonzalez deserves this award since Braun for me is disqualified. Holliday is also good

Agree 100%.

I also can't possibly agree with the statement that Braun is the best outfielder in baseball, regardless of PED debate. Have you ever heard of Matt Kemp or Josh Hamilton?

Topnotchsy · Jul 1, 2012

I went with Braun. Regardless of what happened in that specific situation (and honestly there's weirdness on all sides starting from the fact his results were way higher than anyone else in history) he's been tested dozens of other times during his career and never tested positive. IMO he's by far the best at the position.

homerun28aa · Jul 1, 2012

All The Hype said:
Agree 100%.

I also can't possibly agree with the statement that Braun is the best outfielder in baseball, regardless of PED debate. Have you ever heard of Matt Kemp or Josh Hamilton?

I also agree with this, I'd much rather Kemp and Hamilton is playing head and shoulders better now.

jbhofmann · Jul 1, 2012

sheetskout said:
You may not like him, which I think is ridiculous, but he's the best outfielder in baseball.

LOL He brings this on himself.

sheetskout · Jul 2, 2012

Ryan Braun has accumulated 4.129 years of service time according to Baseball Reference. Josh Hamilton has accumulated 5.0 years of service time. Hamilton has 2539 AB's in those 5.0 years. Braun has 3154 AB's in his 4+ years of time. Although they have played around the same amount of service time Braun leads Hamilton in the following:

Hits (by almost 200)
HRs (by 40)
RBI (by 80)
BA (by .002)
SBs (by 67)

Braun has two more OF Silver Sluggers and matches Hamilton's MVP. Braun ads a ROY, another top-3 MVP finish, and has drawn more walks.

I understand everyone's love affair with Hamilton right now, but stats, and his ability to stay in the lineup says Braun is the better OF right now. Not to mention that Braun is playing 2012 for 6 million. Hamilton is making 13 million plus this season.

Frankly, Kemp has had one really good season. He's not in their class yet.

jbhofmann · Jul 2, 2012

sheetskout said:
Ryan Braun has accumulated 4.129 years of service time according to Baseball Reference. Josh Hamilton has accumulated 5.0 years of service time. Hamilton has 2539 AB's in those 5.0 years. Braun has 3154 AB's in his 4+ years of time. Although they have played around the same amount of service time Braun leads Hamilton in the following:

Hits (by almost 200)
HRs (by 40)
RBI (by 80)
BA (by .002)
SBs (by 67)

Braun has two more OF Silver Sluggers and matches Hamilton's MVP. Braun ads a ROY, another top-3 MVP finish, and has drawn more walks.

I understand everyone's love affair with Hamilton right now, but stats, and his ability to stay in the lineup says Braun is the better OF right now. Not to mention that Braun is playing 2012 for 6 million. Hamilton is making 13 million plus this season.

Frankly, Kemp has had one really good season. He's not in their class yet.

Braun has great numbers. The problem, is the way fans outside Milwaukee perceive him. He was an arrogant a$$hat even before he decided to boost those numbers and get help.

Anthony K. · Jul 2, 2012

jbhoffman, If Braun decided to "boost those numbers and get help", how do you explain this season?

After all he scrutiny over him during the offseason, shouldn't the "help" have worn off and he should be performing worse?

elmalo · Jul 2, 2012

homerun28aa said:
If PEDs were not in the picture, Braun would not be the best LFer in baseball (yes, I know this is 100% speculation and could very well not be true), but I just can't bring myself to vote for a cheater. I had the utmost respect for him before that whole fiasco and I just think probably Carlos Gonzalez deserves this award since Braun for me is disqualified. Holliday is also good

And who is to say that Gonzalez and Holiday arent using anything. Holiday especially, poster boy for peds.

Frow · Jul 2, 2012

Anthony K. said:
jbhoffman, If Braun decided to "boost those numbers and get help", how do you explain this season?

After all he scrutiny over him during the offseason, shouldn't the "help" have worn off and he should be performing worse?

I'm not a doctor but I'm pretty sure that's not how it works.

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elmalo · Jul 5, 2012

Anthony K. said:
jbhoffman, If Braun decided to "boost those numbers and get help", how do you explain this season?

After all he scrutiny over him during the offseason, shouldn't the "help" have worn off and he should be performing worse?

You dont take steroids once to boost your numbers. It doesnt work that way.

Topnotchsy · Jul 5, 2012

Keep in mind Braun tested negative
dozens of times. Odds are he's either been clean his whole career and it was an aberration, or always been on something but with some sort of masking agent that may or may not exist. One way he's totally legit, the other he's a fraud. I lean toward the former but unfortunately there may be no way to know for sure.

sportscardtheory · Jul 5, 2012

Topnotchsy said:
Keep in mind Braun tested negative
dozens of times. Odds are he's either been clean his whole career and it was an aberration, or always been on something but with some sort of masking agent that may or may not exist. One way he's totally legit, the other he's a fraud. I lean toward the former but unfortunately there may be no way to know for sure.

Unless he fails a test in the future, which is always a possibility if he indeed is/was on PEDs.

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