Stetson Allie is a terrible hitter

1 for his last 17. Here is his line so far.


His 2 HR power binge helped get his OPS from ridiculously bad to now just horrific.

Reading interviews pre and post draft he doesn't even seem to want to play very much. Terrible investment by the Pirates.

He's been a hitter for about a month now.

One month.

Around here, that's usually more than enough time to either give up on someone or proclaim their future induction into the HOF.

morgoth said:

1 for his last 17. Here is his line so far.

Team	League	AVG	G	AB	R	H	2B	3B	HR	RBI	TB	BB	SO	SB	CS	OBP	SLG	OPS
PIR	GCL	.171	20	70	14	12	3	1	2	9	23	14	26	1	0	.318	.329	.646
Minors		.171	20	70	14	12	3	1	2	9	23	14	26	1	0	.318	.329	.646

His 2 HR power binge helped get his OPS from ridiculously bad to now just horrific.

Reading interviews pre and post draft he doesn't even seem to want to play very much. Terrible investment by the Pirates.

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Won't be the first time and surely not the last either.

Jaypers said:

He's been a hitter for about a month now.

One month.

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Didn't come into the draft as being rated a 3rd round rated hitter? It's not like he never hit before and according to him and his dad he should have been drafted that way to begin with.

We all love to claim SSS with things like this, but for someone who claims they were a 1st round hitter and was scouted as a 3rd rounder by draft experts do you see anything in his numbers that would lead you to think he can be a ML hitter????

Seriously he does everything badly, and I own a huge collection of Allie including a red refractor auto.

I am just seriously pissed at him, his dad and his attitude. Pirates should have known he would flake out.

Sorry dood. Shaq Green-Thompson disagrees. 27AB 0 hits 26K's 7 walks

or the Bluefield Jays...

Jacob Anderson 11-65, 32K's 1 double 3RBI 0.185 SLG 0.169 BA

Allie was a high ceiling/low floor type of player from day one. It's way too early to write him off, but on the same hand it wouldn't shock me to any degree if he never makes it beyond A-ball. regardless of how the pick turns out, this was the exact type of talent the Pirates needed to be going after in the draft at that point. The Pirates are only going to win through taking chances on potential impact type talent. It's inevitable that not all of those players will be busts, and if that's the case with Allie, he certainly won't the the first, nor the last.

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Allie was a high ceiling/low floor type of player from day one. It's way too early to write him off, but on the same hand it wouldn't shock me to any degree if he never makes it beyond A-ball. regardless of how the pick turns out, this was the exact type of talent the Pirates needed to be going after in the draft at that point. The Pirates are only going to win through taking chances on potential impact type talent. It's inevitable that not all of those players will be busts, and if that's the case with Allie, he certainly won't the the first, nor the last.

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I agree with the approach but our execution has been very bad IMO.

Let's start with Allie, before the draft he stated how he like to throw hard and wasn't a pitcher and preferred to hit if given a choice. Now my issue is that he either lied to the team about how much he wanted to pitch or the Pirates never asked many questions about it. Allie told the team after one year he was done as a pitcher, well he must have felt that way on draft day. IMO he said the right things at the time to get a big bonus, he was a 3rd rounder at best as a hitter. So he is a liar and a quitter.

The Pirates should have been able to read him better than this, someone quitting after 1 season, he had to be showing signs of this potential on draft day. Maybe we should take these guys at face value when they say they don't want to pitch instead of giving them millions of dollars in bonus money.

I don't disagree with drafting someone with Allie's type of talent and overpaying for it but HE was not the one to go for.

Also with the last 3 years of over slot, big, uspide pitchers they have drafted pretty much NONE have panned, zippo, zilch. Their strategy is sound but their scouting isn't up to par again IMO. Bucs Dugout has a nice piece about how poorly their over slot draft picks have done. By now somebody should be doing something.

Take a look at their drafts since 2009. 2009 took Tony Sanchez and he is a backup to middling level player at best. In 2011 they took Cole who is behind Bauer already in ML playing time and doesn't have the upside as Bundy. Then you have Appel this year which was OK but they didn't get their back up plan Buehller signed as well, so this years draft is a massive failure. If you draft Appel and are willing to let him walk, thats fine but don't draft 9 college seniors and then don't sign your next best prospect as well. They should have taken Giolilto but screwed it IMO again.

NH is under the gun more now then he ever has on sites like Bucs Dugout or Pirates Prospects due to these failures, which as a team with this type of payroll can't afford to make.

One of the reasons why they've been so bad last two decades is because of their horrible draft picks.

For a team which has had high first round picks for nearly 20 yrs, they have ONE star to show for it. And that includes 2 #1 picks busts (not counting cole, too early).

Unless im forgetting someone, the only prospect they signed internationally who became a star did so on another team (aramis)