Rolling Donruss vs. MLBP litigation thread

Bob Loblaw · Feb 20, 2009

Just a thread to update you all on the Donruss v MLB Properties litigation, deciphered from legalese into what-it-means-to-you.

The initial complaint was filed on 1/23/09, with Donruss' answer due on 2/13/09, which I was looking forward to reading.

On 2/13/08, the Judge approved a STIPULATION OF EXTENSION OF TIME TO ANSWER: The time for Defendants to serve an Answer or otherwise move in respond to the Complaint served on 1/23/09, is hereby extended, 20 (twenty) days, to 3/4/09.

I'll keep you all in the loop.

The_ReverendAct2 · Feb 20, 2009

what does mlb want to take place with this issue?

Bob Loblaw · Feb 20, 2009

For Donruss to stop using whole and partial MLB logos, stop using minor league player images, destruction of all product, treble damages, attorney's fees, actual damages, and all profits of Donruss.

And their first born male child.

ru4scuba · Feb 20, 2009

Jeff N. said:
For Donruss to stop using whole and partial MLB logos, stop using minor league player images, destruction of all product, treble damages, attorney's fees, actual damages, and all profits of Donruss.

And their first born male child.

The bolded item is scary. They can take out Razor at the same time if they win this.

i43770 · Feb 20, 2009

ru4scuba said:
Jeff N. said:

For Donruss to stop using whole and partial MLB logos, stop using minor league player images, destruction of all product, treble damages, attorney's fees, actual damages, and all profits of Donruss.

And their first born male child.

Click to expand...

The bolded item is scary. They can take out Razor at the same time if they win this.

Does that mean they could also go after anyone who makes 8x10s on eBay that aren't licensed by MLBPA?

ru4scuba · Feb 20, 2009

i43770 said:
ru4scuba said:

Jeff N. said:

For Donruss to stop using whole and partial MLB logos, stop using minor league player images, destruction of all product, treble damages, attorney's fees, actual damages, and all profits of Donruss.

And their first born male child.

Click to expand...

The bolded item is scary. They can take out Razor at the same time if they win this.

Click to expand...

Does that mean they could also go after anyone who makes 8x10s on eBay that aren't licensed by MLBPA?

They already can, but for the most part don't because it is too time consuming and would cost too much. I'm actually hoping the MiLB will start to do this. People selling unlicensed photos on eBay hurts those of us who play by the rules.

Bob Loblaw · Feb 20, 2009

i43770 said:
ru4scuba said:

Jeff N. said:

For Donruss to stop using whole and partial MLB logos, stop using minor league player images, destruction of all product, treble damages, attorney's fees, actual damages, and all profits of Donruss.

And their first born male child.

Click to expand...

The bolded item is scary. They can take out Razor at the same time if they win this.

Click to expand...

Does that mean they could also go after anyone who makes 8x10s on eBay that aren't licensed by MLBPA?

Could, but won't. Nothing to be gained.

ThoseBackPages · Feb 20, 2009

Go Get 'Em MLB!

The_ReverendAct2 · Feb 20, 2009

destruction of all unopened product in warehouse would make donruss the product to have. I can imagine the spike in case price for stuff like deee, contenders and the like. unliscensed or not first auto cards would be must have, esp. contenders with ROOKIE across them.

beefycheddar · Feb 20, 2009

Blue Hodges Reverend said:
destruction of all unopened product in warehouse would make donruss the product to have. I can imagine the spike in case price for stuff like deee, contenders and the like. unliscensed or not first auto cards would be must have, esp. contenders with ROOKIE across them.

Why? I think they would only be able to destroy stuff Donruss has in their warehouses. The MLB won't go out store to store and destroy product. They could do a recall, but with all like that, if you have it already you have the option to keep what you have.

The_ReverendAct2 · Feb 20, 2009

beefycheddar said:
Blue Hodges Reverend said:

destruction of all unopened product in warehouse would make donruss the product to have. I can imagine the spike in case price for stuff like deee, contenders and the like. unliscensed or not first auto cards would be must have, esp. contenders with ROOKIE across them.

Click to expand...

Why? I think they would only be able to destroy stuff Donruss has in their warehouses. The MLB won't go out store to store and destroy product. They could do a recall, but with all like that, if you have it already you have the option to keep what you have.

saying the same thing. donruss warehouse stuff. not likly any in warehouse. if they had say 200 cases in warehouse and had to destroy, live cases would go through roof and contenders prices on stars would go up 50% is what i am saying. dealer would never send back a money product.

ThoseBackPages · Feb 20, 2009

Blue Hodges Reverend said:
beefycheddar said:

[quote="Blue Hodges Reverend":33wdd7kl]destruction of all unopened product in warehouse would make donruss the product to have. I can imagine the spike in case price for stuff like deee, contenders and the like. unliscensed or not first auto cards would be must have, esp. contenders with ROOKIE across them.

Click to expand...

Why? I think they would only be able to destroy stuff Donruss has in their warehouses. The MLB won't go out store to store and destroy product. They could do a recall, but with all like that, if you have it already you have the option to keep what you have.

saying the same thing. donruss warehouse stuff. not likly any in warehouse. if they had say 200 cases in warehouse and had to destroy, live cases would go through roof and contenders prices on stars would go up 50% is what i am saying. dealer would never send back a money product.[/quote:33wdd7kl]

if they didnt sell out of what is considered a "good" product, then there is a problem in the first place.

cgilmo · Mar 3, 2009

Chris Olds (who broke this story originally) has an update

http://blogbeckett.wordpress.com/2009/0 ... ury-trial/

ru4scuba · Mar 3, 2009

cgilmo said:
Chris Olds (who broke this story originally) has an update

http://blogbeckett.wordpress.com/2009/0 ... ury-trial/

Go get 'em DLP!!

Craig - 21hawk · Mar 3, 2009

Sounds like it is probably a boilerplate Answer. No surprise there.

Craug

Bob Loblaw · Mar 3, 2009

Donruss is going to get their ass handed to them.

I was going to check this out on 3/4. Good for DLP's attorney's for being early.

ru4scuba · Mar 3, 2009

Jeff N. said:
Donruss is going to get their ass handed to them.

What I'm most interested in is the MLBP's complaint against the use of MiLB player likenesses. What's the deal with the "New York Civil Rights Law" that Donruss says allows them to use the image?

soccerman034 · Mar 3, 2009

If DLP gets shut down again, i might just stop collecting.

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