Every day I think I've seen everything and then someone pulls a new trick...

markakis8 · Aug 7, 2012

I have a person buy 2 cards for $2. That's it, two small cards. I wait an entire week before opening a claim for non-pay bidder. I get another two offers from him two hours later after opening the claim and then a message that says:

"why would you open unpaid item dispute when I have offers out on other cards of yours? you got something against paying for them all at once or what?"

:lol:::facepalm::

jetsmets150 · Aug 7, 2012

That's actually pretty reasonable if you did not message him beforehand.

moxacaine · Aug 7, 2012

jetsmets150 said:
That's actually pretty reasonable if you did not message him beforehand.

agreed, if you just waited a week then opened a claim. i always message the buyer before opening a claim.

longbomberz · Aug 7, 2012

I think OPs point was that he offered on 2 more auctions after the NPB was opened and then used that as an excuse.

jbrown · Aug 7, 2012

moxacaine said:
agreed, if you just waited a week then opened a claim. i always message the buyer before opening a claim.

the buyer didn't make the offers until after the seller opened the claim. Some buyers are always working an angle.

moxacaine · Aug 7, 2012

my bad, reading comprehension is not my thing tonight.

hofmichael · Aug 7, 2012

moxacaine said:
agreed, if you just waited a week then opened a claim. i always message the buyer before opening a claim.

Why do you owe the buyer a message before opening a claim? I think if they bid or buy it now then they shouldn't need a reminder to parry for it. The bank doesn't remind me to pay my car note.

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TNP777 · Aug 7, 2012

If I'm not mistaken, doesn't eBay send an automatic payment reminder two days after the auction has closed?

I'm with Eric - after a week, the OP doesn't owe his buyer a reminder. His buyer owes the OP some damn money.

moxacaine · Aug 7, 2012

hofmichael said:
Why do you owe the buyer a message before opening a claim? I think if they bid or buy it now then they shouldn't need a reminder to parry for it. The bank doesn't remind me to pay my car note.

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I dont owe them anything but i do it as a courtesy.

olerud363 · Aug 7, 2012

I think that if the auction description specifies "Payment must be received within # days" then the seller doesn't owe the buyer any reminders and can go ahead and open a claim once the allowed window has closed. If there's no such period specified in the auction, things are a little less black-and-white and I think the seller should message the buyer before opening a claim. Poeple who buy a lot on eBay may set multiple snipes or get tons of eBay messages their inboxes and overlook an auction.

As for the buyer's actions described in the OP, to me he/she seems to be trying to pull something with his after-the-fact offers, thinking maybe he can argue the NPB claim by saying that you two still had outstanding offers and that's why he didn't pay. I would think that eBay would throw out that arguement after seeing when the offers were made.

CollectorsCorner · Aug 7, 2012

Ya, I don't communicate with the buyer on non paying at all. To many times I've seen the buyer get a stick up their ass and drop a neg because the seller asked for a payment.

7 days/open a dispute. 7 more days/close dispute/relist

markakis8 · Aug 7, 2012

CollectorsCorner said:
Ya, I don't communicate with the buyer on non paying at all. To many times I've seen the buyer get a stick up their ass and drop a neg because the seller asked for a payment.

7 days/open a dispute. 7 more days/close dispute/relist

This is pretty much how I handle it. And if a buyer communicates with me, I'll allow them even more time. I just declined his new offers (even though they were fair) and we'll see if he pays.

markakis8 · Aug 10, 2012

Paid today. Will ship out today. Let's see if he decides to pull any tomfoolery over 2 cards for $2. I'm not sending with DC.

hoopster3977 · Aug 10, 2012

Carl: Patience is a virtue. I have a buyer that hasn't paid for an item since 7/29. I have not opened a case yet, I pm'd him asking to cancel the transaction if he wanted. No threats, no NPB. Buyer responded saying he still wanted the card, and I will give him a few more days.

It's not the end of the world, or do I need the cash ASAP. Is a couple of bucks going to break you?

markakis8 · Aug 10, 2012

hoopster3977 said:
Carl: Patience is a virtue. I have a buyer that hasn't paid for an item since 7/29. I have not opened a case yet, I pm'd him asking to cancel the transaction if he wanted. No threats, no NPB. Buyer responded saying he still wanted the card, and I will give him a few more days.

It's not the end of the world, or do I need the cash ASAP. Is a couple of bucks going to break you?

I appreciate the advice but it really isn't about the $2. I haven't threatened this person either (unless you count a NPB claim a threat - which I don't). I've only responded to him once out of his three messages to me and my response was simply an explanation of why I filed the claim. It was just the gimmick they tried to pull with the additional offers and the message that followed and it makes me wonder if they has something else up their sleeve. I've fully expected to lose the $2 and the cards, but they could surprise me.

Really wasn't trying to complain this time around (I deal with at least a dozen NPB a week) - it was more of a humorous anecdote.

D-Lite · Aug 10, 2012

A guy the other day, 0 feedback bidder, made a $100 offer on a game I have up. I accepted it and waited. A few days later I sent an invoice which is my nice way of reminding them they have a transaction pending. Then the guy tells me he can't buy it because he lost a roommate and has to pay rent himself. Not a horrible situation but come on.

David T. · Aug 10, 2012

I don't play the waiting game anymore.
Four days after the auction ends I send NPB notices.
I've been burned too many times to deal with children.
If you don't plan on paying within 4 days the least you could do is email me to let me know when you can.
I have no problem waiting but not if there's no communication.
David.

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