Why is there no love for the Onyx Draft cards?

Bob Loblaw · Dec 10, 2012

I put a small bid in for Dan Vogelback and won it - without trying. Received the card -it's chipped to hell, but other than that, the card is absolutely beautiful. Why does this product get no love/no buzz here?

cmnkb8 · Dec 10, 2012

Onyx card products are pricier and lower quality (condition wise) than Leaf. If Leaf barely gets any love, why would Onyx get any?

WillBBC · Dec 10, 2012

They're not licensed so they look like early 90s Post cereal cards.

And that is never a good thing. When everything has that awful air-brushed logo-less design it just cheapens the product tenfold.

Jaypers · Dec 10, 2012

I'll leave it up to allstars - if he likes it, I'll like it too.

Bob Loblaw · Dec 10, 2012

Call me crazy; this is a nice card.

Doesn't Leaf get a lot of love?

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cmnkb8 · Dec 10, 2012

I think Onyx cards look better than Panini stuff, but I still prefer Leaf for unlicensed. The Leaf brand gets a lot of attention around here, but the cards (as far as baseball prospect stuff goes) don't really get much love IMO.

notjomommasclint · Dec 10, 2012

Jaypers said:
I'll leave it up to allstars - if he likes it, I'll like it too.

Larf!

dp33 · Dec 10, 2012

Good question - only have one, but I love the look of my Scooter auto compared to the rest of the unlicensed cards out there.

HPC · Dec 10, 2012

I'd compare Onyx to TriStar moreso than Leaf.

goldenegg1 · Dec 10, 2012

I'm shocked they have managed to stay in business this long.
I never hear of anyone opening their products, even on BO no one opens the stuff.

uniquebaseballcards · Dec 10, 2012

Bob Loblaw said:
I put a small bid in for Dan Vogelback and won it - without trying. Received the card -it's chipped to hell, but other than that, the card is absolutely beautiful. Why does this product get no love/no buzz here?

Its likely at least partially because its in the vested financial interest of many investors to promote a single (or just a few) products.

That is a nice looking card, at least as nice as what any other manufacturer puts out.

P_Manning 18 · Dec 10, 2012

goldenegg1 said:
I'm shocked they have managed to stay in business this long.
I never hear of anyone opening their products, even on BO no one opens the stuff.

I use Chris at Cards Infinity as a good judge of what people will buy... he has a good cross section of the collecting hobby. Those guys will rip just about anything.... Garbage Pail Kids, Star Wars, Auto Jersey products, Auto Helmet and pretty much any sports cards... new and old. I dont remember seeing a single Onyx product being opened.

cgilmo · Dec 10, 2012

Onyx memorabilia products are widely distributed.

We would ship them all over the country in large quantities.

wolfmanalfredo · Dec 10, 2012

Bob Loblaw said:
Call me crazy; this is a nice card.

Doesn't Leaf get a lot of love?

Sometimes beauty is in the eye of the beholder,and thats not a bad thing. I think its ugly personally but its not my card. If you're happy with it, and you think it looks good, thats all that really matters when it comes down to it.

phillyfan0417 · Dec 10, 2012

uniquebaseballcards said:
Its likely at least partially because its in the vested financial interest of many investors to promote a single (or just a few) products.

That is a nice looking card, at least as nice as what any other manufacturer puts out.

what amazing way for shifting your argument. Most "investors" love choice...

cgilmo · Dec 10, 2012

Also I think people overestimate the amount of love leaf gets for baseball products here. When they do get recognition it's normally for ichiro or pujols.

uniquebaseballcards · Dec 10, 2012

phillyfan0417 said:
what amazing way for shifting your argument. Most "investors" love choice...

As an investor, which scenario nets the most profit:

A. Player has a single card with a print run of 1000
B. Player has fifty different cards each with a print run of 1000

phillyfan0417 · Dec 10, 2012

uniquebaseballcards said:
As an investor, which scenario nets the most profit:

A. Player has a single card with a print run of 1000
B. Player has fifty different cards each with a print run of 1000

B because it allows for more buyers and at different price points, handles the demands of high to low budget buyers.

uniquebaseballcards · Dec 10, 2012

phillyfan0417 said:
B because it allows for more buyers and at different price points, handles the demands of high to low budget buyers.

This doesn't address ROI and increased risk of selecting the 'wrong' brand.

phillyfan0417 · Dec 10, 2012

uniquebaseballcards said:
This doesn't address ROI and increased risk of selecting the 'wrong' brand.

Of course it adresses ROI. People buy chrome and then people buy sterling/panini/leaf/eee and if you are buying at the right price point, you're making money. I'm not guessing, I actually know this works. Onyx is not at that level but it has nothing to do with investors not wanting choice.

i believe its people like you who would like choice limited.

every single investment is a risk.

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