you can get a win AND a save, right?

hive17 · May 29, 2013

Tied in the 8th and your closer gets an out in the 8th, his team scores, and then he saves the 9th, right?

Anyone have an example of this happening recently? I'm trying to win a bet with a friend.

ThoseBackPages · May 29, 2013

guzman4cy · May 29, 2013

i think its impossible. you would only get the win, no save in that scenario.

Huffamaniac · May 29, 2013

Just a win

Hendersonfan · May 29, 2013

You can get one or the other but not both. You can get a blown save then win, but that's as close as it gets.

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Huffamaniac · May 29, 2013

In your scenario if the pitcher was to go in and play another position in the 9th for a batter and would come back in and pitch, then he probably would get a Win and a Save

Hendersonfan · May 29, 2013

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1564/can-a-pitcher-get-a-win-and-a-save-for-the-same-game

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hive17 · May 29, 2013

Hendersonfan said:
The Straight Dope: Can a pitcher get a win and a save for the same game?

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Yes, rule quote! That's what I was looking for! Thanks. I was pretty sure I lost the bet, but I'm glad to see I was wrong (and right, as it turns out).

Juan Gris · May 30, 2013

Interesting. I'd say you were both right.

nosterbor · May 30, 2013

Win only.

vwnut13 · Sep 13, 2013

How about this...

Mariano Rivera entered the game in the bottom of the 9th. The Yankees were leading 5-4. Rivera recorded three quick outs.

He was credited with the win, and did not get credited with a save.

The official scorer ruled that David Robertson was brief and ineffective, therefore Robertson did not deserve the win.

The rules state that "brief" generally is, but is not required to be less than one inning. Robertson pitched a full inning. Seems to me like the official scorer stretched an obscure rule to take a save away from Rivera.

MisterT · Sep 13, 2013

vwnut13 said:
How about this...

Mariano Rivera entered the game in the bottom of the 9th. The Yankees were leading 5-4. Rivera recorded three quick outs.

He was credited with the win, and did not get credited with a save.

The official scorer ruled that David Robertson was brief and ineffective, therefore Robertson did not deserve the win.

The rules state that "brief" generally is, but is not required to be less than one inning. Robertson pitched a full inning. Seems to me like the official scorer stretched an obscure rule to take a save away from Rivera.

I have seen that happen to others also. That seems pretty subjective, as opposed to the rule in question on this thread, which is clear...you one person cannot have a win and a save. But, with your nuance, a person can actually save the game and be credited with the win (but not the save).

smapdi · Sep 13, 2013

Yeah, the scorer's opinion is what counts unless there is a specific rule about who gets credit for what, and every once in a while one goes rogue and assigns credit for something to an unexpected person. I would think the rules for what constitutes a save situation and how credit for a win is normally assigned would be mutually exclusive, but I guess anything can happen.

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