Biogenesis founder testifying against players; A-Rod, Braun etc to be suspended

longbomberz · Jun 4, 2013

This could be huge

https://twitter.com/daleysports/status/342064783467622400
https://twitter.com/Buccigross/status/342065738548404224

ESPN is going live with it on ESPNews now.

EDIT

Full story from ESPN

http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_...rodriguez-ryan-braun-part-miami-investigation

GiantsSuperCollector · Jun 4, 2013

Sources tell @OTLonESPN Bosch will swear an affidavit that he provided drugs to players. MLB may seek 100-game suspensions for Braun, A-Rod.
MLB's argument would be that A-Rod and Braun committed two offenses: connection to Bosch, and lying about PED use.

James52411 · Jun 4, 2013

This is a huge story. ARod and Braun will be disgraced if this holds up.

cartersprings · Jun 4, 2013

James52411 said:
This is a huge story. ARod and Braun will be disgraced if this holds up.

I think they've already disgraced themselves.

I'm curious about who the 'other players' on the list are.

HPC · Jun 4, 2013

"In exchange for Bosch's full cooperation, sources said, Major League Baseball will drop the lawsuit it filed against Bosch in March; indemnify him for any liability arising from his cooperation; provide personal security for him and even put in a good word with any law enforcement agency that may bring charges against him."

So, yeah, it's not like Bosch has any reason to tell MLB whatever it wants to hear.

longbomberz · Jun 4, 2013

cartersprings said:
I'm curious about who the 'other players' on the list are.

The players who might ultimately face discipline from MLB include: Rodriguez, Braun, Cabrera, Colon, Grandal, Nelson Cruz, Francisco Cervelli, Jesus Montero, Jhonny Peralta, CesarPuello, Fernando Martinez, Everth Cabrera, Fautini de los Santos, Jordan Norberto, and a number of players who are either identified by code names or whose names appear in other documents not obtained by "Outside the Lines."

cartersprings · Jun 4, 2013

longbomberz said:
The players who might ultimately face discipline from MLB include: Rodriguez, Braun, Cabrera, Colon, Grandal, Nelson Cruz, Francisco Cervelli, Jesus Montero, Jhonny Peralta, CesarPuello, Fernando Martinez, Everth Cabrera, Fautini de los Santos, Jordan Norberto, and a number of players who are either identified by code names or whose names appear in other documents not obtained by "Outside the Lines."

Thank you!

gmsieb · Jun 4, 2013

HPC said:
"In exchange for Bosch's full cooperation, sources said, Major League Baseball will drop the lawsuit it filed against Bosch in March; indemnify him for any liability arising from his cooperation; provide personal security for him and even put in a good word with any law enforcement agency that may bring charges against him."

So, yeah, it's not like Bosch has any reason to tell MLB whatever it wants to hear.

If thats true, why was arod trying to buy all the info and destroy it, b4 the mlb was able to get it. The players cheat, they got caught. Its life. Some of our heroes suck.

A_Pharis · Jun 4, 2013

Dannngggg. And ARoid is beyond "disgracing". At this point - he is "par for the course".

George_Calfas · Jun 4, 2013

Did Hal Stienbrenner know about this and their "disappointment" comment was a way to get in front of this?

HPC · Jun 4, 2013

gmsieb said:
If thats true, why was arod trying to buy all the info and destroy it, b4 the mlb was able to get it. The players cheat, they got caught. Its life. Some of our heroes suck.

What he did was no different than celebrities who try to buy back stuff they don't want the public to see.

The government said they weren't getting involved so now it's between employer and employee and will ultimately be decided in court from the player's appeals if MLB decides to suspend them.

WaxPax · Jun 4, 2013

Don't think for a minute the Yankees won't use this suspension to try and get out from the remainder of his deal....I'm sure they have been working on this for a while....

A_Pharis said:
Dannngggg. And ARoid is beyond "disgracing". At this point - he is "par for the course".

A_Pharis · Jun 4, 2013

WaxPax said:
Don't think for a minute the Yankees won't use this suspension to try and get out from the remainder of his deal....I'm sure they have been working on this for a while....

Oh, yeah, man. They've been looking for a reason - despite Cashman talking about how much they want him back on the field.

Enfuego79 · Jun 4, 2013

I still think A Rod is one of MLBs biggest names. Take away the PED yrs and he was still a beast!

P_Manning 18 · Jun 4, 2013

Player	Team
Alex Rodriguez	Yankees
Ryan Braun	Brewers
Melky Cabrera	Blue Jays
Bartolo Colon	Athletics
Gio Gonzalez*	Nationals
Yasmani Grandal	Padres
Nelson Cruz	Rangers
Francisco Cervelli	Yankees
Jesus Montero	Mariners
Jhonny Peralta	Tigers
Cesar Puello**	Mets
Fernando Martinez	Astros
Everth Cabrera	Padres
Fautino de los Santos	Athletics
Jordan Norberto	Free agent As if Jesus Montero needed to fall any further..... this could destroy any future value he may hold.

hive17 · Jun 4, 2013

If Bosch feels his character has been "assassinated" to this point, just wait until the MLBPA and individual players' lawyers start in on him. Really, since he's the linchpin in this whole case, his character and career will be gutted in an attempt to make him look completely unreliable.

markakis8 · Jun 4, 2013

No Orioles, good. Sad day for baseball though (again).

Erich · Jun 4, 2013

Sell Sell Sell

All In Cards · Jun 4, 2013

I still blame MLB for all of this. The league knew what the players were doing in the Steroid Era. It wasnt until after most retired that they changed the rules against some of the banned substances. The players saw what it did for the players in the 90's and said lets try and see if we get caught.

Personally, if these guys want to take something that is going to mess up their bodies in the long run, let them ruin their own lives. Is it hurting anyone but them.

Also it still takes an athlete to hit a 100 mph fastball, juice or no juice.

MGiuseffi · Jun 4, 2013

All In Cards said:
I still blame MLB for all of this. The league knew what the players were doing in the Steroid Era. It wasnt until after most retired that they changed the rules against some of the banned substances. The players saw what it did for the players in the 90's and said lets try and see if we get caught.

Personally, if these guys want to take something that is going to mess up their bodies in the long run, let them ruin their own lives. Is it hurting anyone but them.

Also it still takes an athlete to hit a 100 mph fastball, juice or no juice.

I agree that MLB is to blame for turning a "blind eye" to the problem for years after the fan base was destroyed due to strikes, lockouts, etc... That said, my perspective has changed a bit. As a father of a high school athlete, who looks up to the professional athletes as role models, I do not want him to think it's OK to use PEDs.

Yes, the players are hurting themselves by putting this junk into their bodies. Many will pay the price in a few years. Sadly, the other "victims" of this are kids who look up to these guys, and the sport itself. Growing up.... 61 home runs, and other numbers meant something. Now, personal stats are meaningless for the most part from a historical perspective.

Sigh... Is there no end to this drama?

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