How do Sub Bumps work?

trademhigh · Mar 9, 2009

Sent in my Wieters Elite and it got a 9 with 2 9.5s and 2 9s. I'll get a scan up shortly, but how do sub bumps work, and do you think it's worth it to resubmit?

JG

rainmanesq · Mar 9, 2009

Re: How to Sub Bumps work?

basically u resub the card to bgs (in the slab) + ask them to review/sub bump it- sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn’t. Sub bumping tends to work more often @ shows.

trademhigh · Mar 9, 2009

Re: How to Sub Bumps work?

rainmanesq said:
basically u resub the card to bgs (in the slab) + ask them to review/sub bump it- sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn’t. Sub bumping tends to work more often @ shows.

Damn. I should have gone to the Hempstead show like I planned too bad bgs won't be at the WP Show. Do you think most cards have a decent shot at being bumped up by .5?

JG

scotty21690 · Mar 9, 2009

Re: How to Sub Bumps work?

rainmanesq said:
basically u resub the card to bgs (in the slab) + ask them to review/sub bump it- sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn’t. Sub bumping tends to work more often @ shows.

What you can do that when the card is in the slab??

That is rediculous, how does the cards grade improve when it's in the slab??

Johan Santana 57 · Mar 9, 2009

good idea would be to see when bgs is at the next WP show, and find a big submitter and add it into his

pjnprospects · Mar 9, 2009

I just attempted my first sum bump at the Hofstra show. It is a 9.5 w/ two 10's and two 9.5's, so I doubt it gets bumped. But I hear 9's tend to have a solid chance at 9.5

EricInCT · Mar 9, 2009

I recently bought an orange ref that had 2 9s and 2 9.5s...I cracked the thing open and noticed something was on the surface (one of the 9s) I clean it off nicely and submitted it like any other card. I get the grade back tomorrow, I will keep you posted. :lol:

Jaypers · Mar 9, 2009

trademhigh said:
Re: How do Sub Bumps work?

As I understand it, their function is to keep basements from flooding in heavy rain.

rainmanesq · Mar 9, 2009

Re: How to Sub Bumps work?

trademhigh said:
rainmanesq said:

basically u resub the card to bgs (in the slab) + ask them to review/sub bump it- sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn’t. Sub bumping tends to work more often @ shows.

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Damn. I should have gone to the Hempstead show like I planned too bad bgs won't be at the WP Show. Do you think most cards have a decent shot at being bumped up by .5?

JG

depends what the issue is- centering, edges, corners, surface? Surface defects and edges defects (esp on ee b/c white chips show) tend to be harder to subbump, but if it’s say centering or corners + the card looks VERY clean, it’s worth a try

rainmanesq · Mar 9, 2009

Re: How to Sub Bumps work?

scotty21690 said:
rainmanesq said:

basically u resub the card to bgs (in the slab) + ask them to review/sub bump it- sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn’t. Sub bumping tends to work more often @ shows.

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What you can do that when the card is in the slab??

That is rediculous, how does the cards grade improve when it's in the slab??

I don’t make the rules; that’s just how bgs does it...as does psa. Same w/’crossovers’ + ‘graded card reviews’.

DRav87 · Mar 9, 2009

Re: How to Sub Bumps work?

scotty21690 said:
What you can do that when the card is in the slab??

That is rediculous, how does the cards grade improve when it's in the slab??

Thats what I was thinking. I can understand if you crack it out.

trademhigh · Mar 9, 2009

Now, a better question. Am I better off keeping it in the slab, or cracking it to resub?
Edges and corners were the 9s.

IndyManning18 · Mar 9, 2009

Jaypers said:
trademhigh said:

Re: How do Sub Bumps work?

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As I understand it, their function is to keep basements from flooding in heavy rain.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

rainmanesq · Mar 9, 2009

Re: How to Sub Bumps work?

Reds in 2009 said:
scotty21690 said:

What you can do that when the card is in the slab??

That is rediculous, how does the cards grade improve when it's in the slab??

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Thats what I was thinking. I can understand if you crack it out.

Actually, if you take a loupe (10x or 30x is even better) through a clean bgs case (e.g., not 1 that’s been scratched up from here til tomorrow), you can see pretty well. BGS also examines cards through high intensity light so assuming the case is clean, you can decide whether something’s worth a subbump. Things like corner defects are pretty easy to see even to the naked eye- as are edge defects like on ee/07 bcdp.

From watching other people try to subbump until the cows come home, it seems like it is less successful than it used to be. However, it also seems like more and more people are trying it. I heard the 01 bc pujols ref au was subbed for subbumping something like 25 different times. Ah grading- it’s a crazy game out there kids. I won’t even go into how many times I’ve seen 8.5 rcrs become 9.5 or 10 rcrs the next day. It’s far more subjective than you think.

rainmanesq · Mar 9, 2009

trademhigh said:
Now, a better question. Am I better off keeping it in the slab, or cracking it to resub?
Edges and corners were the 9s.

Crack it out and your 9 can become an 8.5 if you get a harsh grader- or your high 9/borderline 9.5 can become a low 9 (all 9s). Personally I’d keep it in the holder + try to sub bump @ a show.

However, edges/corners are notoriously problem areas for ee/bgs seems to be pretty harsh on these, so a subbump may not happen.

darocker80 · Mar 9, 2009

i hope to one day sub bump my blue ref

trademhigh · Mar 9, 2009

rainmanesq said:
trademhigh said:

Now, a better question. Am I better off keeping it in the slab, or cracking it to resub?
Edges and corners were the 9s.

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Crack it out and your 9 can become an 8.5 if you get a harsh grader- or your high 9/borderline 9.5 can become a low 9 (all 9s). Personally I’d keep it in the holder + try to sub bump @ a show.

However, edges/corners are notoriously problem areas for ee/bgs seems to be pretty harsh on these, so a subbump may not happen.

Thanks for the tips! If you were me, would you take a decent offer on it now, or hold and try the sub bump, first?

JG

rainmanesq · Mar 9, 2009

trademhigh said:
rainmanesq said:

trademhigh said:

Now, a better question. Am I better off keeping it in the slab, or cracking it to resub?
Edges and corners were the 9s.

Click to expand...

Crack it out and your 9 can become an 8.5 if you get a harsh grader- or your high 9/borderline 9.5 can become a low 9 (all 9s). Personally I’d keep it in the holder + try to sub bump @ a show.

However, edges/corners are notoriously problem areas for ee/bgs seems to be pretty harsh on these, so a subbump may not happen.

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Thanks for the tips! If you were me, would you take a decent offer on it now, or hold and try the sub bump, first?

JG

his cards are nuts right now, so i imagine you can get a really good offer now...which i'd prob take if i had a minimal amt in the card. however, if you have a show near you say next weekend (or 2), i'd try sub bumping. bgs will tell you right there if it will bump- but then you have to wait for them to encase it in tx, so unless his cards keep rising, you may miss out on some cash. then again, if he pulls a ryan braun AND you get the sub bump, that can be good coin.

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