Greg Bird ?

longbomberz said:

Guessing that they don't see him continuing his performance at higher levels and the lists tend to value future performance and potential.

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D-Lite said:

BA also shafted Bird.

So, the way people have tried to rationalize it is he is now a 1B and the bar is very high for 1B. Supposedly. Though look around the majors right now and tell me exactly how many superstar 1B there are.

Also, the argument about being blocked at 1B on the Yanks is not really valid. He's signed for 3 more seasons. Bird will enter 2014 in high A ball. So give him at least another year and a half to make the Show, then maybe gets regular duty in 2016, Teixeira's final year. He'll be 36.

And no one can rationalize the future performance knocks for me. In fact it should be mostly the opposite:
- hit 20 HRs on the season where his home park was one of the worst power parks in the minors
- not just HRs, but doubles too with 36
- second only to Joey Votto for walks in all of pro ball
- significant amount of K's were on called strikes, thanks to minor league low A ball umps
- no questions about attitude, unlike Mason Williams and Gary Sanchez (unfounded or not for those guys)

Someone should explain to me how Mayo has Bichette at #15 and a pitcher that had double hip surgery at #10 . Bichette HAD potential, but is chronically underperforming after repeated years at the same level as Bird (and has pretty terrible 3B defense, so don't give me a positional argument). Hensley, while I believe he'll be good, hasn't proven anything whatsoever.

Tell me how this slap-hitting minor league Yankee 1B turned out:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=mattin001don

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D-Lite said:

BA also shafted Bird.

So, the way people have tried to rationalize it is he is now a 1B and the bar is very high for 1B. Supposedly. Though look around the majors right now and tell me exactly how many superstar 1B there are.

Also, the argument about being blocked at 1B on the Yanks is not really valid. He's signed for 3 more seasons. Bird will enter 2014 in high A ball. So give him at least another year and a half to make the Show, then maybe gets regular duty in 2016, Teixeira's final year. He'll be 36.

And no one can rationalize the future performance knocks for me. In fact it should be mostly the opposite:
- hit 20 HRs on the season where his home park was one of the worst power parks in the minors
- not just HRs, but doubles too with 36
- second only to Joey Votto for walks in all of pro ball
- significant amount of K's were on called strikes, thanks to minor league low A ball umps
- no questions about attitude, unlike Mason Williams and Gary Sanchez (unfounded or not for those guys)

Someone should explain to me how Mayo has Bichette at #15 and a pitcher that had double hip surgery at #10 . Bichette HAD potential, but is chronically underperforming after repeated years at the same level as Bird (and has pretty terrible 3B defense, so don't give me a positional argument). Hensley, while I believe he'll be good, hasn't proven anything whatsoever.

Tell me how this slap-hitting minor league Yankee 1B turned out:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=mattin001don

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bmp1971 said:

Mattingly hit for more average in A ball than Bird, but with not even half the HR in more AB and 48 less BB. Interesting. Mattingly was also 3 inches shorter and 60 lbs lighter!

I think Bird could emerge as a stud before long.

I think Hensley is strong and durable, assuming they get his mechanics in order.

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maxe0213 said:

I just don't believe in bird at all. I see a guy who is hiting power off rookie league pitchers. I expect his average to come down but his power to go up slightly.

And yes he is blocked at first base for now. Yeah maybe when tex is done he can get a chance but that's a ways a way.

I would put a 5% chance he ends up being an impact player on the Yankees. I strongly believe he will be traded either this deadline or next year.

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