Astros' TV revenue covers their payroll 3x over

vwnut13 · Dec 19, 2013

Interesting article about MLB TV Revenue.

http://www.awfulannouncing.com/2013/may/how-mlb-splits-your-tv-dollars.html

HPC · Dec 19, 2013

TV revenues and outside sources of incomes are MLB teams dirty little secrets.

Pittsburgh was piiiiiiissed a couple years ago when their financals were released to, I believe, deadspin

cgilmo · Dec 19, 2013

The cards have a really really crappy deal

Therion · Dec 19, 2013

Are these actual revenues or projected? I ask because the Astros are currently suing the blue Jesus out of Comcast because of the projected numbers being artificially inflated to make the team seem more valuable.

bigunitcards · Dec 19, 2013

Great info. Everytime I hear sports radio or forums arguing about Kobe or whoever getting paid too much, they never seem to comprehend the amount of money pro sports generate from tickets, TV and merchandise COMBINED. Yeah Team X might be paying player Y too much when they could get the same production by signing players Z & W instead, but X generates jersey sales, TV viewers etc. Sports is a BUSINESS people.

maxe0213 · Dec 19, 2013

bigunitcards said:
Great info. Everytime I hear sports radio or forums arguing about Kobe or whoever getting paid too much, they never seem to comprehend the amount of money pro sports generate from tickets, TV and merchandise COMBINED. Yeah Team X might be paying player Y too much when they could get the same production by signing players Z & W instead, but X generates jersey sales, TV viewers etc. Sports is a BUSINESS people.

Couldn't agree more!

Benson · Dec 19, 2013

There's no way the Nats get $86M, the same as the Orioles, from MASN.

RStadlerASU22 · Dec 19, 2013

Surprised by how low some if these are comparatively , Texas mainly...

Ryan

BBCgalaxee · Dec 19, 2013

Expected Yankees to be number one, not third.

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maxe0213 · Dec 19, 2013

BBCgalaxee said:
Expected Yankees to be number one, not third.

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I can see the Dodgers being higher. But the sorry Angels? I can't imagine more people wanting to watch them over the Yankees.

maxe0213 · Dec 19, 2013

BBCgalaxee said:
Expected Yankees to be number one, not third.

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And the Red Sox are tied with the Mariners, Astros, Padres and are beat by the Mets. Never would've expected that. i would've expected Yanks, Dodgers, Sox, Rangers, Angels as the top 5.

rsmath · Dec 20, 2013

cgilmo said:
The cards have a really really crappy deal

yes, because it's an ancient deal with current pact expiration for at least after the 2015 season according to my notes. The money actually was meaningful for the time the pact was inked. Nowdays, it's horrible compared to what they could have gotten if they didn't sign such a long-*** deal with FSMW.

rsmath · Dec 20, 2013

Therion said:
Are these actual revenues or projected?

Article says projected. Considering the clubs are privately held companies, I doubt you are going to find any meaningful actual revenues from the few that may be a subsidiary of a publically held company, so you have to go by whisper numbers that the tv/radio/newspapers report the deal might be worth when there are stories about the clubs' tv/radio rights.

rsmath · Dec 20, 2013

Benson said:
There's no way the Nats get $86M, the same as the Orioles, from MASN.

I seem to recall in the mess about moving Montreal to DC, there was some deal struck with Peter Angelos about TV rights money since the Nats would be cutting into his Orioles TV territory. If the numbers are the same from MASN for each club, the deal must have been that the Nats and O's rights money were combined and split equally.

rsmath · Dec 20, 2013

maxe0213 said:
I can see the Dodgers being higher. But the sorry Angels? I can't imagine more people wanting to watch them over the Yankees.

The Dodgers will be much higher in 2014 - the article only addresses 2013, before the raise in national tv revenue with the new contracts and before the Dodgers' tv pact starting in 2014 with TWC starts and the Dodgers will be making a boatload more tv rights money per season.

Angels have high local tv rights money because a few years ago, they inked a long-term deal with Fox Sports West that was estimated to be $3b for 20 years.

I'd like to see awfulannouncing to have a radio rights story at some point because there is also radio rights money revenue for the teams.

Benson · Dec 20, 2013

rsmath said:
I seem to recall in the mess about moving Montreal to DC, there was some deal struck with Peter Angelos about TV rights money since the Nats would be cutting into his Orioles TV territory. If the numbers are the same from MASN for each club, the deal must have been that the Nats and O's rights money were combined and split equally.

The split is nothing close to equal. I believe the Nats actually get about $29M from MASN. They are tied up in litigation trying to get a more favorable split, I've read something in the high 8 digits. Based on subscriber fees ($2.14/month) times the number of subscribers (~6M) MASN generates about $150M in rights fees, and a good chunk of that goes right into Petey's pockets.

ThoseBackPages · Dec 20, 2013

cheap bastards

maxe0213 · Dec 20, 2013

rsmath said:
The Dodgers will be much higher in 2014 - the article only addresses 2013, before the raise in national tv revenue with the new contracts and before the Dodgers' tv pact starting in 2014 with TWC starts and the Dodgers will be making a boatload more tv rights money per season.

Angels have high local tv rights money because a few years ago, they inked a long-term deal with Fox Sports West that was estimated to be $3b for 20 years.

I'd like to see awfulannouncing to have a radio rights story at some point because there is also radio rights money revenue for the teams.

Yeah we are talking about 2013. I would still expect my order to hold in 2013.

Obviously 2014 is a whole different beast but thats not going to be published for a while.

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