C.C. Sabathia for CY Young

Nick1190 said:

I am a Mets fan, and I am saying he deserves it all. I am not a biased person at all, and this is my opinion. As big of a fan I am of Tim, Sabathia basically pitched the final two weeks on three days rest, and took the Brewers to the playoffs.

There is no doubt in my mind that Sabathia should win it. No offense to Lincecum, but the games he has pitched in, don't mean jack.

Your opinion? Please provide an explanation as to why you chose, who you chose.

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Nick1190 said:

I am a Mets fan, and I am saying he deserves it all. I am not a biased person at all, and this is my opinion. As big of a fan I am of Tim, Sabathia basically pitched the final two weeks on three days rest, and took the Brewers to the playoffs.

There is no doubt in my mind that Sabathia should win it. No offense to Lincecum, but the games he has pitched in, don't mean jack.

Your opinion? Please provide an explanation as to why you chose, who you chose.

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mlbsalltimegreats said:

Santana!!!

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fengzhang said:

Nick1190 said:

I am a Mets fan, and I am saying he deserves it all. I am not a biased person at all, and this is my opinion. As big of a fan I am of Tim, Sabathia basically pitched the final two weeks on three days rest, and took the Brewers to the playoffs.

There is no doubt in my mind that Sabathia should win it. No offense to Lincecum, but the games he has pitched in, don't mean jack.

Your opinion? Please provide an explanation as to why you chose, who you chose.

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CC Sabathia can duke it out with Pujols for the MVP award. That's what you're thinking of.

The Cy Young is typically given on the basis of numbers alone. How well the team is doing and that other stuff generally factors in very little. Sabathia was having a subpar year before getting traded. He's been amazing since then obviously but you don't give Cy Young awards for good performance in 60% of the season.

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sheetskout said:

fengzhang said:

Nick1190 said:

I am a Mets fan, and I am saying he deserves it all. I am not a biased person at all, and this is my opinion. As big of a fan I am of Tim, Sabathia basically pitched the final two weeks on three days rest, and took the Brewers to the playoffs.

There is no doubt in my mind that Sabathia should win it. No offense to Lincecum, but the games he has pitched in, don't mean jack.

Your opinion? Please provide an explanation as to why you chose, who you chose.

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CC Sabathia can duke it out with Pujols for the MVP award. That's what you're thinking of.

The Cy Young is typically given on the basis of numbers alone. How well the team is doing and that other stuff generally factors in very little. Sabathia was having a subpar year before getting traded. He's been amazing since then obviously but you don't give Cy Young awards for good performance in 60% of the season.

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I'm sorry. But Sabathia's won-loss record was subpar before he was traded. He still stands in second place in the AL for complete games and shutouts.

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Bigfan5 said:

If you want cc for CY then why not Manny for MVP. cc just doesn't deserve it for a partial year in the league. He was great but just like Manny, doesn't get it for only doing it part of the year.

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soccerman034 said:

Johan. More innings, lower ERA, 2nd in SO; add in the fact that he also got many of his wins blown by the Mets horrible bullpen, and I think you give it to him. Also count the fact that he pitched nearly flawlessly down the stretch (every game he pitched was a must win), while Lincecum struggled pitching meaningless games down the stretch.

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Nick1190 said:

mlbsalltimegreats said:

Santana!!!

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Good to know you can follow simple directions..

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fengzhang said:

sheetskout said:

fengzhang said:

Nick1190 said:

I am a Mets fan, and I am saying he deserves it all. I am not a biased person at all, and this is my opinion. As big of a fan I am of Tim, Sabathia basically pitched the final two weeks on three days rest, and took the Brewers to the playoffs.

There is no doubt in my mind that Sabathia should win it. No offense to Lincecum, but the games he has pitched in, don't mean jack.

Your opinion? Please provide an explanation as to why you chose, who you chose.

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CC Sabathia can duke it out with Pujols for the MVP award. That's what you're thinking of.

The Cy Young is typically given on the basis of numbers alone. How well the team is doing and that other stuff generally factors in very little. Sabathia was having a subpar year before getting traded. He's been amazing since then obviously but you don't give Cy Young awards for good performance in 60% of the season.

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I'm sorry. But Sabathia's won-loss record was subpar before he was traded. He still stands in second place in the AL for complete games and shutouts.

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And you think complete games and shutouts matter more than ERA and wins? Sabathia was under .500 with a 3.9 ERA when he was traded. That's subpar for him.

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soccerman034 said:

Johan. More innings, lower ERA, 2nd in SO; add in the fact that he also got many of his wins blown by the Mets horrible bullpen, and I think you give it to him. Also count the fact that he pitched nearly flawlessly down the stretch (every game he pitched was a must win), while Lincecum struggled pitching meaningless games down the stretch.

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soccerman034 said:

His last start he allowed 6 ER in 4 innings. In the start before that, he allowed 3 ER which is sub par for him at this point. 2 stars earlier, he allowed 5 ER in 5 IP. Aside from the shut out, he has been struggling, which is why Johan passed him in ERA.

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