Advise on an eBay issue

Topnotchsy · Jul 12, 2014

Sold a card on eBay. Seller contacts me very aggressively saying the card came out of the toploader during shipping and got damaged, questioning my sanity and the like. I had foolishly not sealed the toploader so I told him to send me pictures and offered him a full refund.

He said he wanted a partial refund, and sent a bunch of pictures. Looking at the pictures I could not see anything but the slightest bit of damage. He wanted a $180 refund (card was around $500). I was not happy but figured I'd rather not fight over it, figured maybe the picture did not show the damage as bad as it was, and did not want to risk negative feedback. I ended up agreeing to give him $150 back.

2 days later I see the card on eBay with an insane BIN taking offers with no mention on the condition. Obviously it's a reminder that some people will do anything for a buck but I'm trying to determine if there is something I should do now?

A_Pharis · Jul 12, 2014

Buy it and demand a nearly full refund.

bmp1971 · Jul 12, 2014

Topnotchsy said:
Sold a card on eBay. Seller contacts me very aggressively saying the card came out of the toploader during shipping and got damaged, questioning my sanity and the like. I had foolishly not sealed the toploader so I told him to send me pictures and offered him a full refund.

He said he wanted a partial refund, and sent a bunch of pictures. Looking at the pictures I could not see anything but the slightest bit of damage. He wanted a $180 refund (card was around $500). I was not happy but figured I'd rather not fight over it, figured maybe the picture did not show the damage as bad as it was, and did not want to risk negative feedback. I ended up agreeing to give him $150 back.

2 days later I see the card on eBay with an insane BIN taking offers with no mention on the condition. Obviously it's a reminder that some people will do anything for a buck but I'm trying to determine if there is something I should do now?

Well, the question is whether or not he lied about some form of damage to the card. You could bring it up with ebay, showing them he claimed damage and a partial refund ($150), but now has the same item listed without damage.

Or, you could just let it go.

Want me to message the guy and ask him about the condition of the card? If he denies damage, you could show his message denying damage to ebay.

trizzo22 · Jul 12, 2014

I would go with bmp1971's idea

CollectorsCorner · Jul 12, 2014

Full refund or no refund!

Topnotchsy · Jul 12, 2014

bmp1971 said:
Want me to message the guy and ask him about the condition of the card? If he denies damage, you could show his message denying damage to ebay.

Pm sent

bmp1971 · Jul 12, 2014

I could offer $350 for it and then demand a partial refund for "damaged item"-- then see if he handles it the way he wanted you to? haha

MansGame · Jul 13, 2014

Everything about this is shady. I don't know what I would do.

jcmint · Jul 13, 2014

post his ID here so we can block him.

arod812 · Jul 13, 2014

If this was me in this situation with such a high dollar card, I'd just offer a full refund or no refund. Now if this was a $15 card then I'd have no problem just refunding him partially or fully and just say keep it to just be done with the problem. eBay is too 1 sided with buyers cause they have such a advantage over sellers with feedback hanging over the seller.

Pine Tar · Jul 13, 2014

jcmint said:
post his ID here so we can block him.

Joe here is the Auction in question and the sellers eBay name is
Dsmitty411

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2008-Bowman...1351994824?pt=US_Baseball&hash=item233d4829c8

And damn man he got that card for less then 350 and has it up for 2999.99 best offer. WTF

Topnotchsy · Jul 13, 2014

He's in his right to list it at whatever price that part is not my issue. I sent him a message and am deciding on whether I should just let it go since there's really nothing I can do about it and he told me he is going to adjust the listing to add the condition.

mrdallas · Jul 13, 2014

Look at his description of the card.

"Make an offer and this amazing piece of history could be yours. Arguably the best lefty of all time! Time will tell! But no doubt the best pitcher in ball today! 2008 Bowman Chrome Orange Refractor AUTOGRAPH on card auto 17/25! LA Dodgers. Condition of the card - front is beautiful due to being chrome side. No scratches or dings or pin spots. Back - great centering no dings or scratches or pin spots, however very slight white in a couple corners. Still sharp though. Upper right near picture is slightly edged. Still an amazing one of a kind card by the best pitcher in the game and of the modern era."

There is NO reason this guy should have asked for a refund. i say say this guy is an A-Hole. Sorry to hear that happen to you. I hate people sometimes.

Pine Tar · Jul 13, 2014

Topnotchsy said:
He's in his right to list it at whatever price that part is not my issue. I sent him a message and am deciding on whether I should just let it go since there's really nothing I can do about it and he told me he is going to adjust the listing to add the condition.

Maybe since i asked him the condition and some else has according to him. In his response

bmp1971 · Jul 13, 2014

Topnotchsy said:
He's in his right to list it at whatever price that part is not my issue. I sent him a message and am deciding on whether I should just let it go since there's really nothing I can do about it and he told me he is going to adjust the listing to add the condition.

If he received the card in worse condition than you sold it as, yeah, there's really nothing you can do. But if he merely said he did, and is now trying to sell it above or equal to the condition he bought it for, then he lied to you and took $150 from you and should be called out for it.

Pine Tar · Jul 13, 2014

Topnotchsy said:
He's in his right to list it at whatever price that part is not my issue. I sent him a message and am deciding on whether I should just let it go since there's really nothing I can do about it and he told me he is going to adjust the listing to add the condition.

Sent you a pm with the response

Regards Richard

Topnotchsy · Jul 13, 2014

bmp1971 said:
If he received the card in worse condition than you sold it as, yeah, there's really nothing you can do. But if he merely said he did, and is now trying to sell it above or equal to the condition he bought it for, then he lied to you and took $150 from you and should be called out for it.

I honestly don't know. I never advertised it as mint condition (said it was NmMt) and based on what he is saying that's probably what it still is but it may have gotten slightly more damaged in the process.

Topnotchsy · Jul 13, 2014

Pine Tar said:
Sent you a pm with the response

Regards Richard

I appreciate it.

hrbek14 · Jul 13, 2014

Never partial refund. Never refund without an official claim.

bmp1971 · Jul 13, 2014

Topnotchsy said:
I honestly don't know. I never advertised it as mint condition (said it was NmMt) and based on what he is saying that's probably what it still is but it may have gotten slightly more damaged in the process.

If he bought it as "NM-MT" and is selling it as "NM-MT"-- then he should not have gotten $150 in a partial refund.

I highly doubt the card sliding out slightly from the toploader altered the condition of this card in question. His description of the condition in no way makes the card sound "damaged"....

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